US National Team Camp for the 2000s

US has called 60 players for U15 camp. One Texas player was called. It looks like the full LA Galaxy team was called with 9 players. Sporting KC had 2 called and nobody else from the Frontier conference. 56 of the 60 come from DA. I wonder how many of the 9 scouts used by USSF are located in California.

CA: 14
FL: 8
PA: 5
NY: 4
NJ: 4
GA: 3
VA/MD: 5



http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-soccer-articles/sixty-players-called-into-u15-bnt-mega-camp_aid38244

I wanted to post the same. FC Dallas DA has been producing a lot of talented players, I am amazed that not even one player has been called to the camp!

That player from Solar 00 is a special player and has traveled many times with the US National team. But, figured there would be more from Texas.

fot the record! as you probably already know, neither clint dempsey nor omar gonzales ever got recongnised by US National scouts in youth soccer. lee nguyen got a sniff from us soccer during youth age but has yet to make a big impact for national team. its all so "subjective"

Sprint wrote:That player from Solar 00 is a special player and has traveled many times with the US National team.  But, figured there would be more from Texas.  

i agree but the bigger problem is there are many more "special" players in texas. of which MANY are as special. when scouts pluck one player from a mediocre team to move up i applaud. when they that several boys from the same ELITE "TEAM", i question the scouts homework. my son would "appear" to be a better player surrounded by excellence. how well does a kid hold up when not surrounded by gifted players my tell us more about how good he may become.

Maybe they are going the easiest way: move a block of good players who already play together and "create" a national team around one successful cluster of players. how successful LA Galaxy DA is, it's not to me to judge as I did not see them play.

It is a shame that more players from are not getting recognition. I have seen enough to know that politics and favoritism are big factors.

On top of the politics soccer really is a very subjective sport. There are so many intangible factors that go into determining talent and different scouts/coaches put different emphasis on the aspects that make a great player.

While getting picked for a 60 player national camp is great recognition and good for the resume there are many paths to the top and most players experience a lot of bumps in the road. As previously stated players such as Dempsey and Omar have been overlooked in the past but they went on to good things.

We should use this perceived injustice as motivation to evolve our clubs and coaching and develop more great youth players and teams who become top professional level players that walk on to the USMNT when it counts.

soccerdadrandy wrote: how well does a kid hold up when not surrounded by gifted players

Its probably a good way to prep them for the senior National team.

....ouch...lmao!!!

Number13 wrote:

soccerdadrandy wrote: how well does a kid hold up when not surrounded by gifted players

Its probably a good way to prep them for the senior National team.

FUNNY AND TRUE LMAO

Laroja_2012 wrote:Maybe they are going the easiest way: move a block of good players who already play together and "create" a national team around one successful cluster of players. how successful LA Galaxy DA is, it's not to me to judge as I did not see them play.

I think it exposes the lack of creativity in the selection process and also the lack of MLS based Academy programs available.

I am glad we are having this discussion because now is the time for good change and I think MLS needs to be the central driver for that to occur because they have a vested interest in player development.

I would rather see the FC Dallas Academy churn out professional MLS players and ultimately figure out an MLS based "Winning Formula" to increase the number of "Legitimate" International players which many would argue we have failed to accomplish at all (I disagree, but I understand the argument for that position).

On the other side of the discussion, many others (Myself included) think that we have a long way to go before we create our first "International" Superstar Player.

What strikes me as interesting is that USSF is congratulating itself on expanding the camp to 60 players, yet the scouts have chosen 9 players from the same team. That is equivalent to the emperor having no clothes.

And I agree the local player is a well deserved choice.

earbucket wrote:What strikes me as interesting is that USSF is congratulating itself on expanding the camp to 60 players, yet the scouts have chosen 9 players from the same team.  That is equivalent to the emperor having no clothes.

And I agree the local player is a well deserved choice.

I agree there is more politics coming from the USNMT crap and I thought I was a NTX thing but damn it seems to get worse!!! the main problem I see is hell the MNT does a lot of 40 yard whack so shouldn't the NTX boys fit right in? I mean all these youth cali teams I have seen in previous years pass the ball around waaaaaay too much for the MNT so why so many from cali? the answer is simple POLITICS!!!!!!!!

How many of those 9 were under the guidance of Brian Kleiban? Might give some insight into it...

futsalfan06 wrote:How many of those 9 were under the guidance of Brian Kleiban?  Might give some insight into it...

Sounds like you nailed it on that one!

http://www.thegoatparade.com/2015/4/17/8445031/brian-kleiban-and-his-players-to-move-from-chivas-usa-academy-to-la-galaxy-academy

futsalfan06 wrote:How many of those 9 were under the guidance of Brian Kleiban?  Might give some insight into it...

probably a wonderful coach but lets not lose sight of the fact you DONT find 11 athletic boys at age 6 or 7 and train them (build them) into a great team. while training is extremely important, RECRUITING is the only way to constantly ad talent to your squad. the recruited players are the result of some daddy coach at 5,6,7 years of age and/or some low licensed committed coach in many MANY cases. from MLSSOCCER.com

http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2015/09/21/24-under-24-cradle-grave-inside-la-galaxys-quest-build-holistic-academy-system

"Scouting is key, and the Galaxy are building a network of contacts across the region. The coaches watch as much local soccer as possible – “Nonstop, 24 hours,” as Muñoz puts it – and although there are players that inevitably will fall through the cracks, Vagenas & Co. believe that they know every top player in the area. Or soon will." Jovan Kirovski, technical director

Five of the LA Galaxy players selected for the USNT U15 camp were already in the LA Galaxy DA U13/14 in 2014/15 under coach Munoz:
http://ussda.demosphere.com/teams/68797515/61518873-68797604/TEAM.html
The other four played for coach Kleiban in the USA Chivas DA U13/14 in 2014-15:
http://ussda.demosphere.com/teams/68797515/61518870-68797604/TEAM.html

LA Galaxy Academy High school:
http://www.lagalaxy.com/post/2015/07/23/la-galaxy-launch-revolutionary-high-school-education-program-stubhub-center

Laroja_2012 wrote:Five of the LA Galaxy players selected for the USNT U15 camp were already in the LA Galaxy DA U13/14 in 2014/15 under coach Munoz:
http://ussda.demosphere.com/teams/68797515/61518873-68797604/TEAM.html
The other four played for coach Kleiban in the USA Chivas DA U13/14 in 2014-15:
http://ussda.demosphere.com/teams/68797515/61518870-68797604/TEAM.html

so what I reading into is they seem to be building a "team" that wins at the "youth level" but will fail at the MNT level instead of finding the truly best talent and then building hhhmmmm way to go USA

And this article from Topsoccerdrawer already predicted 10 players to be selected:

"Galaxy was expected to have more than 10 players in consideration for the U.S. U17 Men’s National Team Residency Program for the 2017 World Cup cycle. This move (the high school program) could help encourage U.S. Soccer to leave those national team players with their club instead of sending them to IMG Academy in Bradenton, Florida. USSF renewed their lease with IMG Academy in February for another two-year cycle at the grounds that Landon Donovan built.

Over 10 players on one youth national team is an unheard of figure, but it is definitely in the conversation for LA Galaxy. After Chivas USA ceased operations in October, LA Galaxy was granted full control of the Southern California youth soccer scene from an MLS Academy perspective. It did not take long for Galaxy to benefit from the monopoly.

Chivas USA (and former Barcelona USA) U14 coach Brian Kleiban inked a deal with LA Galaxy earlier this year as one of the coaches for the Galaxy’s academy next season. Kleiban, an already accomplished youth coach, comes with a number of promising prospects from his U14 team, which will add to an already deep roster Galaxy had in that age group. Kleiban joins Mike Munoz, the 2011 Development Academy Coach of the Year, on the Galaxy youth staff.

The high school, which will begin in August, is another example in LA Galaxy’s commitment to rivaling the best academies in the world. With loaded rosters and now a hub for everything Academy players need, Galaxy is entering into a frontier for player development in the U.S. "

full article here:
http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-soccer-articles/la-galaxy-academy-to-launch-high-school_aid36761

Laroja_2012

I am glad the article mentioned Brian Kleiban. Him and his brother Gary run http://blog.3four3.com/ and they are amazing coaches. watch the video on that site of their team killing a FC Dallas team. Some of the top u14/15 kids have been with them from the start and others like John "XuhXuh" Hilton (now with Ajax Amsterdam youth). Any other acadamey having that many kids on the roster i would be suspicious but not from the Kleiban's - they are legit. I wish they could just coach that U15 US team.

Ehlodog wrote:Laroja_2012

I am glad the article mentioned Brian Kleiban. Him and his brother Gary run http://blog.3four3.com/ and they are amazing coaches. watch the video on that site of their team killing a FC Dallas team. Some of the top u14/15 kids have been with them from the start and others like John "XuhXuh" Hilton (now with Ajax Amsterdam youth). Any other acadamey having that many kids on the roster i would be suspicious but not from the Kleiban's - they are legit. I wish they could just coach that U15 US team.

Better yet, watch the short 5 minute video of the two U13 Surf Cup quarters if you want see some great contrast between possession and kick ball. The first 2:30 minutes is Klieban's team (Chivas) possessing and moving the ball with ease. The second 2:30 is 2 unidentified teams and I didn't see one string of passes--just blast the ball out of the area. Not sure how those 2 teams made the quarterfinals at Surf Cup. Klieban's team is legit.

Ehlodog wrote:Laroja_2012

I am glad the article mentioned Brian Kleiban. Him and his brother Gary run http://blog.3four3.com/ and they are amazing coaches. watch the video on that site of their team killing a FC Dallas team. Some of the top u14/15 kids have been with them from the start and others like John "XuhXuh" Hilton (now with Ajax Amsterdam youth). Any other acadamey having that many kids on the roster i would be suspicious but not from the Kleiban's - they are legit. I wish they could just coach that U15 US team.

first which FCD team was that? and then second I guess if you have the money and if your kid is decent send him away to train that seems to be the ONLY a kid stands a chance to make unless of course your a coaches son from a big club but then again this is why other countries think EVERY American is rich