Playing Select & HS Soccer

Ok so I overheard last nite that starting next yr or the yr after when your child goes select they cannot play HS soccer too. Is this true or has anyone heard this?

not going to happen for the vast majority of players on competitive teams. Developmental Academy (DA) players are currently prohibited from playing HS soccer as a condition of being in the program. What you probably heard was the prospect of US Soccer forming a girls DA program and presumably restricting girls from HS soccer too.

Agree with nearpost95 with a little add...There are a few Select coaches who will not be happy if your BB is on another team. Is it against the rules? No, but you may not endear yourself to the coach. Best advice is to talk to your coach before a decision is made so you know the lay of the land.

Ok thank u I was just wandering. It was a girls dad I had heard it from so yea you are probably right. So yall are saying if they play in the DA they are not allowed too?

Pretty sure that is standard for all the DA teams but, again, talk to the coach.

nearpost95 wrote:not going to happen for the vast majority of players on competitive teams.  Developmental Academy (DA) players are currently prohibited from playing HS soccer as a condition of being in the program.  What you probably heard was the prospect of US Soccer forming a girls DA program and presumably restricting girls from HS soccer too.

they have apparently found loopholes to this

Loopholes as in?

omega striker wrote:

nearpost95 wrote:not going to happen for the vast majority of players on competitive teams.  Developmental Academy (DA) players are currently prohibited from playing HS soccer as a condition of being in the program.  What you probably heard was the prospect of US Soccer forming a girls DA program and presumably restricting girls from HS soccer too.

they have apparently found loopholes to this

No loopholes, DA clubs can lose USSF Status and funding if a DA player is caught playing high school soccer (as well as other sports)

No way a kid who is good enough to play in DA would risk his college carrier to play for his HS against the DA rules. As tempting and fun as it may sound, he would not do that. There are definitely former PA/DA players in HS teams, but not players who are currently rostered on DA teams.

Laroja_2012 wrote:No way a kid who is good enough to play in DA would risk his college carrier to play for his HS against the DA rules. As tempting and fun as it may sound, he would not do that. There are definitely former PA/DA players in HS teams, but not players who are currently rostered on DA teams.

Fully agree with this. Some DA players may leave their team in middle of senior year, if they have scholarship in hand and choose to play HS vs. DA team maybe making the playoffs. This doesn't hold true for FCD as all those kids are vying for professional contracts.

There are four Division I college signees at Frisco Wakeland who are playing for an academy instead of their school's boys team. Wakeland is still ranked No. 2 in the nation thanks to help from four players who quit academy so they could play for their school.
Wakeland senior Hector Duron left his academy team before last season because he wasn't getting a lot of playing time. He is still going on to play in college at Ouachita Baptist.
"It's not the only way to get a scholarship," Duron said of academies.
Cody Sedatole was a freshman on Wakeland's 2014 state semifinalist team. He went to an academy as a sophomore but returned to play for Wakeland this season.
"In high school, it's more like a family. It's a close-knit environment," Sedatole said. "High school is a place where you can make friends, grow. Academy is more geared toward just winning constantly, and that's what you're there to do."

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/high-school/high-schools/2016/03/22/will-high-school-soccer-programs-suffer-us-soccer-academies-tighten-grip-young-talent

From the same article.

Passos said the development academies have created a more equal playing field for boys high school soccer. The last three seasons, Lufkin, San Elizario and Waco University reached the state tournament for the first time and won state championships.

"In years past, some schools had rosters comprised of 10-15 academy players, while others had two to three," Passos said. "Now, your high school teams are mostly made up of classic league D1-D2, recreational players and the occasional academy player who comes back to play high school in his senior year."

earbucket wrote:

Laroja_2012 wrote:No way a kid who is good enough to play in DA would risk his college carrier to play for his HS against the DA rules. As tempting and fun as it may sound, he would not do that. There are definitely former PA/DA players in HS teams, but not players who are currently rostered on DA teams.

Fully agree with this.  Some DA players may leave their team in middle of senior year, if they have scholarship in hand and choose to play HS vs. DA team maybe making the playoffs. This doesn't hold true for FCD as all those kids are vying for professional contracts.

FCD Academy doesn't allow any outside activities and since it is a full-time training system there isn't any free time to practice or play outside of the academy even if it was allowed.

US Club and USYS make it possible for non-academy teams to have all options on the table including HS Soccer. Depending on the size of your school and the number of select players on your team HS Soccer is an option that could be exercised, but I would caution the select players against playing if you find that the quality of your opponents is so low that you end up with an unnecessary injury from mixing it up against teams that play too physical and are reckless.

"The MLS clubs should be the only clubs with the [U.S. Soccer Development Academy] teams. It doesn't make sense to allow non-professional clubs USSDA status," Coppell's Rakestraw said.

Wow...This seems wrong on so many levels....

PremierLeagueFan wrote:

earbucket wrote:

Laroja_2012 wrote:No way a kid who is good enough to play in DA would risk his college carrier to play for his HS against the DA rules. As tempting and fun as it may sound, he would not do that. There are definitely former PA/DA players in HS teams, but not players who are currently rostered on DA teams.

Fully agree with this.  Some DA players may leave their team in middle of senior year, if they have scholarship in hand and choose to play HS vs. DA team maybe making the playoffs. This doesn't hold true for FCD as all those kids are vying for professional contracts.

FCD Academy doesn't allow any outside activities and since it is a full-time training system there isn't any free time to practice or play outside of the academy even if it was allowed.

US Club and USYS make it possible for non-academy teams to have all options on the table including HS Soccer. Depending on the size of your school and the number of select players on your team HS Soccer is an option that could be exercised, but I would caution the select players against playing if you find that the quality of your opponents is so low that you end up with an unnecessary injury from mixing it up against teams that play too physical and are reckless.

Can I get a clarification on this? Do Texans Academy and Solar Academy allow outside activities differently than FCD? Does FCD not allow a kid to be in NHS or another student club due to training time constraints?

Ozymandias.EBON wrote:

"The MLS clubs should be the only clubs with the [U.S. Soccer Development Academy] teams. It doesn't make sense to allow non-professional clubs USSDA status," Coppell's Rakestraw said.

Wow...This seems wrong on so many levels....

Here a more in depth interview with coach Chad on what he thinks of DA and high school soccer:

http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/the91stminute/2014/10/talking-high-school-development-academy-with-coppell/

Laroja_2012 wrote:

Ozymandias.EBON wrote:

"The MLS clubs should be the only clubs with the [U.S. Soccer Development Academy] teams. It doesn't make sense to allow non-professional clubs USSDA status," Coppell's Rakestraw said.

Wow...This seems wrong on so many levels....

Here a more in depth interview with coach Chad on what he thinks of DA and high school soccer:

http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/the91stminute/2014/10/talking-high-school-development-academy-with-coppell/

I'm not talking about HS vs DA, I'm talking about only MLS clubs having DA teams.
You would effectively convert DA to the MLS minor league....too centralized, political, and subject to the whims of forces outside of the youth teams control.
What happens if your BB is in the MLS DA system and the sponsor club decided to move to another city?
Do you move or does your BB's budding career just stop because there is no other DA team in your area?
Just plain wrong...

There is a ton of high quality talent outside of the MLS sponsored DA teams that would effectively have nowhere to get better.
That does NOT sound like something healthy for the sport...

Laroja_2012 wrote:No way a kid who is good enough to play in DA would risk his college carrier to play for his HS against the DA rules. As tempting and fun as it may sound, he would not do that. There are definitely former PA/DA players in HS teams, but not players who are currently rostered on DA teams.

apparently you are incorrect sir