02 Academy leagues next fall...

Not sure what will eventually happen with ATF fields... Will SDL need to look for new fields... or work out a deal with the new owner...

Any of the top SDL teams considering moving to a different league for the fall? CAL? EAL?

On the surface EAL seems like a better deal to me. It's cheaper, offers more games, more refs, uses gotsoccer for scheduling and tracking scores/standings. I know our coach will want to play where the good competition is so that's why I'm curious if others have considered switching leagues.

SDL Fee -- $1,300 (+$65 for each player over 13 players)
EAL Fee -- $700
CAL Fee -- $840 (including weekly ref fee)

SDL # Games -- 8
EAL # Games -- 10
CAL # Games -- 8

SDL Refs -- 2
EAL Refs -- 3
CAL Refs -- 3

SDL Length of Games -- 2 x 25 min
EAL Length of Games -- 2 x 30 min
CAL Length of Games -- Not sure

debit wrote:Not sure what will eventually happen with ATF fields... Will SDL need to look for new fields... or work out a deal with the new owner...

Any of the top SDL teams considering moving to a different league for the fall? CAL? EAL?

On the surface EAL seems like a better deal to me. It's cheaper, offers more games, more refs, uses gotsoccer for scheduling and tracking scores/standings. I know our coach will want to play where the good competition is so that's why I'm curious if others have considered switching leagues.

SDL Fee -- $1,300 (+$65 for each player over 13 players)
EAL Fee -- $700
CAL Fee -- $840 (including weekly ref fee)

SDL # Games -- 8
EAL # Games -- 10
CAL # Games -- 8

SDL Refs -- 2
EAL Refs -- 3
CAL Refs -- 3

SDL Length of Games -- 2 x 25 min
EAL Length of Games -- 2 x 30 min
CAL Length of Games -- Not sure

Nice breakdown Debit. It appears that EAL is the beat deal. It's all about competition though. With SDL having the issue with field availability after the closing of ATF some might think otherwise. But with the money SDL makes I assume they will come thru. I know they still want to make some money.

I'd like to know more about EAL,you have a linky or more info there debit?

all i could find: http://www.glasasoccer.org/eal/

That's the correct website. It's basically the old PAL North, but a little different.

I know a lot of coaches left PAL a few years ago and moved to SDL. One of the biggest complaints was that PAL played 9v9 at U10 and coaches wanted 11v11 in preparation for the jump to select soccer (or to make more money...probably a bit of both).

Now PAL has dissolved and been replaced by CAL, EAL and PAL West or whatever it's being called in Arlington. CAL is run by Classic league and is still 9v9, but EAL offers an 11v11 option. I would like to see us be the change agents and convince our coaches to move to one of these cheaper leagues. It's probably the accountant in me, but I hate paying almost twice the price for league fees yet feel shortchanged on # of refs and # of games compared to other options out there.

If parents could push this idea with Snell, Renner, Adames, Fagen, Souter, Goncalves, Stricker, Loftin, Scott then we could have a cheaper league with 3 refs, more games and still the great competition.

Yes, you have to drive to Lewisville for games, but Railroad Park is very close to I-35E & 121 so it's pretty accessible. It would be closer for some and farther for others.

I like the idea of 3 refs. I know at many of our ATF games the ref on the field did not (could not) run up and down the field to keep up with play. So he or she basically guessed on offside calls as they were not in position to see it. Not a huge deal at this age but if we can get more for less money it seems to make sense. Do not know if the parents on this site can collectively make a difference or not but imo worth a shot. Any other opinions on it?

debit wrote:That's the correct website. It's basically the old PAL North, but a little different.

I know a lot of coaches left PAL a few years ago and moved to SDL. One of the biggest complaints was that PAL played 9v9 at U10 and coaches wanted 11v11 in preparation for the jump to select soccer (or to make more money...probably a bit of both).

Now PAL has dissolved and been replaced by CAL, EAL and PAL West or whatever it's being called in Arlington. CAL is run by Classic league and is still 9v9, but EAL offers an 11v11 option. I would like to see us be the change agents and convince our coaches to move to one of these cheaper leagues. It's probably the accountant in me, but I hate paying almost twice the price for league fees yet feel shortchanged on # of refs and # of games compared to other options out there.

If parents could push this idea with Snell, Renner, Adames, Fagen, Souter, Goncalves, Stricker, Loftin, Scott then we could have a cheaper league with 3 refs, more games and still the great competition.

Yes, you have to drive to Lewisville for games, but Railroad Park is very close to I-35E & 121 so it's pretty accessible. It would be closer for some and farther for others.

Agree. With the numbers you presented, a move would be a no-brainer for most teams especially those in the second and third tiers of SDL. The only potential issues I see with top teams not wanting to move are: competition level and Saturday games.

On the first point, top teams would need to coordinate a mass move to ensure decent competition week in and week out (look at what Primetime did with the creation of the TX girls premier league). You've got all summer to coordinate it. On the second point, I'm not sure much can be done to move the EAL or CAL games to Saturday. My assumption is that EAL and CAL games will continue to take place on Sunday for U10s.

Ochocinco wrote:

debit wrote:That's the correct website. It's basically the old PAL North, but a little different.

I know a lot of coaches left PAL a few years ago and moved to SDL. One of the biggest complaints was that PAL played 9v9 at U10 and coaches wanted 11v11 in preparation for the jump to select soccer (or to make more money...probably a bit of both).

Now PAL has dissolved and been replaced by CAL, EAL and PAL West or whatever it's being called in Arlington. CAL is run by Classic league and is still 9v9, but EAL offers an 11v11 option. I would like to see us be the change agents and convince our coaches to move to one of these cheaper leagues. It's probably the accountant in me, but I hate paying almost twice the price for league fees yet feel shortchanged on # of refs and # of games compared to other options out there.

If parents could push this idea with Snell, Renner, Adames, Fagen, Souter, Goncalves, Stricker, Loftin, Scott then we could have a cheaper league with 3 refs, more games and still the great competition.

Yes, you have to drive to Lewisville for games, but Railroad Park is very close to I-35E & 121 so it's pretty accessible. It would be closer for some and farther for others.

Agree. With the numbers you presented, a move would be a no-brainer for most teams especially those in the second and third tiers of SDL. The only potential issues I see with top teams not wanting to move are: competition level and Saturday games.

On the first point, top teams would need to coordinate a mass move to ensure decent competition week in and week out (look at what Primetime did with the creation of the TX girls premier league). You've got all summer to coordinate it. On the second point, I'm not sure much can be done to move the EAL or CAL games to Saturday. My assumption is that EAL and CAL games will continue to take place on Sunday for U10s.

I agree.

futbolista wrote:

debit wrote:Not sure what will eventually happen with ATF fields... Will SDL need to look for new fields... or work out a deal with the new owner...

Any of the top SDL teams considering moving to a different league for the fall? CAL? EAL?

On the surface EAL seems like a better deal to me. It's cheaper, offers more games, more refs, uses gotsoccer for scheduling and tracking scores/standings. I know our coach will want to play where the good competition is so that's why I'm curious if others have considered switching leagues.

SDL Fee -- $1,300 (+$65 for each player over 13 players)
EAL Fee -- $700
CAL Fee -- $840 (including weekly ref fee)

SDL # Games -- 8
EAL # Games -- 10
CAL # Games -- 8

SDL Refs -- 2
EAL Refs -- 3
CAL Refs -- 3

SDL Length of Games -- 2 x 25 min
EAL Length of Games -- 2 x 30 min
CAL Length of Games -- Not sure

Nice breakdown Debit. It appears that EAL is the beat deal. It's all about competition though. With SDL having the issue with field availability after the closing of ATF some might think otherwise. But with the money SDL makes I assume they will come thru. I know they still want to make some money.

I agree.

Do we think it is possible to talk to all the coaches of the D1 teams and get them to move to EAL? I am not sure how much the coaches communicate but it seems from a cost perspective it is worth a shot.

2sgrm wrote:
Do we think it is possible to talk to all the coaches of the D1 teams and get them to move to EAL? I am not sure how much the coaches communicate but it seems from a cost perspective it is worth a shot.

True.

debit wrote:Not sure what will eventually happen with ATF fields... Will SDL need to look for new fields... or work out a deal with the new owner...

Any of the top SDL teams considering moving to a different league for the fall? CAL? EAL?

On the surface EAL seems like a better deal to me. It's cheaper, offers more games, more refs, uses gotsoccer for scheduling and tracking scores/standings. I know our coach will want to play where the good competition is so that's why I'm curious if others have considered switching leagues.

SDL Fee -- $1,300 (+$65 for each player over 13 players)
EAL Fee -- $700
CAL Fee -- $840 (including weekly ref fee)

SDL # Games -- 8
EAL # Games -- 10
CAL # Games -- 8

SDL Refs -- 2
EAL Refs -- 3
CAL Refs -- 3

SDL Length of Games -- 2 x 25 min
EAL Length of Games -- 2 x 30 min
CAL Length of Games -- Not sure

EAL is US Youth Soccer and that requires players' home association sign off and some charge players an extra fee, so how is it cheaper than SDL when you have some associations charging 50-95 dollars per year to be registered but not playing rec soccer.

Where is Primetime on this list some decent teams play PT and they have 3 different facilities to play games in. I am sure with some push from coaches they could use the fields on Saturdays for 02/03 players similar to SDL if they do not make it next fall.

doopie wrote:
EAL is US Youth Soccer and that requires players' home association sign off and some charge players an extra fee, so how is it cheaper than SDL when you have some associations charging 50-95 dollars per year to be registered but not playing rec soccer.

The NTSSA Academy Registration form is required for 99% of all NTSSA-sanctioned tournaments and all NTSSA-sanctioned leagues from August to the following July. Unless you play in only PrimeTime tournaments and SDL, your players are going to need that form at some point, so we suggest you invest in that form early and use it all year long. If the vote passes at NTSSA's Annual General Meeting, U7 and U8 will be allowed in EAL, CAL, and all NTSSA-sanctioned tournaments. Paying that fee to your home association will be worth it, then.

If the rule passes, EAL will offer U7 and U8 (8v8) this Fall.

Registration for Fall 2011 is now open - www.glasasoccer.org/eal

Has anyone gotten word from their coaches were they will be playing this coming fall? Is there any word on where the SDL games will be held in the abscence of the Andromeda field?

Sprint wrote:Has anyone gotten word from their coaches were they will be playing this coming fall? Is there any word on where the SDL games will be held in the abscence of the Andromeda field?

I sent them a quick email to see where they may be heading,I'll post their official response when they get back with me.

Sprint wrote:Has anyone gotten word from their coaches were they will be playing this coming fall? Is there any word on where the SDL games will be held in the abscence of the Andromeda field?

Despite my best efforts, I received an e-mail from our manager last night stating our SDL fee for the fall. I think the biggest drawback to EAL for us is playing on Sunday (and I totally understand why they do) and the uncertainty of getting good competition. I was hoping for a move to EAL as I know Dom runs a great league, and I personally see many advantages to that league.

Where is SDL going to play? I decided to check the website and noticed they have announced...




...absolutely nothing

I think if form holds from the last few seasons most of the top teams will play SDL as well. I was curious as to where it will be played. I guess we will know prior to kick-off of the first game.

txsoccerdad wrote:

Sprint wrote:Has anyone gotten word from their coaches were they will be playing this coming fall? Is there any word on where the SDL games will be held in the abscence of the Andromeda field?

I sent them a quick email to see where they may be heading,I'll post their official response when they get back with me.

Thanks for asking. We are "hopefully" wrapping up discussions with a field center that is on the east side to replace ATF; should have it figured, we hope Friday or Monday latest; can't really discuss publically just yet. Hope you understand. Obviously, we will make sure everyone knows it when we get it done.

Thanks!

Rick

Rick & Jason have always been good people imho

Sprint wrote:
I think if form holds from the last few seasons most of the top teams will play SDL as well. I was curious as to where it will be played. I guess we will know prior to kick-off of the first game.

I too endorsed EAL with no luck; as far as I'm concerned, you can bank on most of the top teams returning to SDL in the fall. You may start seeing a gradual shift of top teams to EAL next spring.

Our 02B division is going to be STRONG

coachdom wrote:Our 02B division is going to be STRONG

It looks like the EAL league will be keeping score so it should save some of the parents on this forum from having to come with tables and scores on their own.

Looks like it will be a good league.

Can you give us any team names to pass along to our coach?

Pm sent

Honestly, I don't think that the price of the league is much of a concern. When you consider the ridiculous amount of money most of these clubs charge!