Plano Labor Day - 96 Boys Flights

Flight Full Team Name
Boys U16 Gold ANDROMEDA FC - U15 PRE-ACADEMY
Boys U16 Gold ANDROMEDA FC 96B RED
Boys U16 Gold ARKANSAS COMETS FC COMETS 96B PREMIER
Boys U16 Gold CAJUN SC 96 FURY BLUE
Boys U16 Gold CFJ-LA 96B LOUISIANA FIRE BLUE
Boys U16 Gold DALLAS TEXANS 96B WEST WHITE (PREV TEXAS TITANS)
Boys U16 Gold DFW TEJANOS 96 PREMIER
Boys U16 Gold ECLIPSE 96 BLACK
Boys U16 Gold HOUSTON EXPRESS 96B NAVY
Boys U16 Gold NYSA CELTIC 96 GREEN
Boys U16 Gold OK TEXANS 96 BOYS
Boys U16 Gold OMAHA FC 95/96 ELITE 1
Boys U16 Gold SOLAR CHELSEA 96 BOYS
Boys U16 Gold TEXAS FIRE SC TEXAS FIRE 96
Boys U16 Gold TEXAS RUSH NIKE BOYS 95/96
Boys U16 Gold TFC 96 BOYS

Boys U16 Silver A ALDINE UNIDED WARRIORS
Boys U16 Silver A ANDROMEDA FC 96B
Boys U16 Silver A CABOSA SHREVEPORT UNITED SHREVEPORT UNITED
Boys U16 Silver A CHICAGO FIRE JUNIORS OF MISSISSIPPI MFC FIRE ELITE
Boys U16 Silver A COMETS 96B BLUE
Boys U16 Silver A DALLAS TEXANS 96B WHITE DALLAS
Boys U16 Silver A FC DALLAS YOUTH 96 BOYS
Boys U16 Silver A INTERNATIONAL FC INTER FC 96B
Boys U16 Silver A ODYSSEY 96B BLUE
Boys U16 Silver A SELECT FORCE FC 96
Boys U16 Silver A SPACE CITY FC SCFC 96B
Boys U16 Silver A TEXAS LONGHORNS SC 96B ORANGE

Boys U16 Silver B AMERICAN EAGLES 96 BOYS BLUE
Boys U16 Silver B CANADIAN VALLEY FC 96 RED
Boys U16 Silver B COLLIERVILLE SA LOBOS 96 BLUE
Boys U16 Silver B ECSC 96 BOYS
Boys U16 Silver B FC DALLAS YOUTH 96B BLUE
Boys U16 Silver B MANCHESTER UNITED
Boys U16 Silver B PLANO YSA FUSION FC 96 BOYS WHITE
Boys U16 Silver B ROVERS 96 BOYS
Boys U16 Silver B TEXAS PREMIER FC CROWLEY FC 96B
Boys U16 Silver B TFC 96B BLUE
Boys U16 Silver B UNION TULSA NATIONALS 96 BOYS
Boys U16 Silver B WCSC FC BARTLESVILLE 96

Wow!!! The OK Texans 96 boys with a region 3 ranking of 295, HOUSTON EXPRESS 96B NAVY rank 135
get in gold division over CL D1 teams Ody region III rank
38, American Eagles rank 53. Eagles in Silver B division at that. Guess PYSA values the out of NTX teams more than the locals that have patronized their tournament for years.

American Eagles team is not the CL D1 WHITE team. Is the Odyssey team the first or second team that is playing?

First. The second is ODY 96 Gold. Where did you end up?

my2cents wrote:First. The second is ODY 96 Gold. Where did you end up?

Sent you a pm

Why is Ody in the silver division?

soccerdad1 wrote:Why is Ody in the silver division?

Manager needs to address that! hahahahahahahahahahaha

my2cents wrote:Wow!!! The OK Texans 96 boys with a region 3 ranking of 295, HOUSTON EXPRESS 96B NAVY rank 135
get in gold division over CL D1 teams Ody region III rank
38, American Eagles rank 53. Eagles in Silver B division at that. Guess PYSA values the out of NTX teams more than the locals that have patronized their tournament for years.

I totally agree with you. Thats total BULL!!!!! Plano has some explaining to do!!! Odyssey and AE were both ripped. I suppose that who ever came up with the brackets must have been smoking something. No respect.

jgomezceiinc wrote:

my2cents wrote:Wow!!! The OK Texans 96 boys with a region 3 ranking of 295, HOUSTON EXPRESS 96B NAVY rank 135
get in gold division over CL D1 teams Ody region III rank
38, American Eagles rank 53. Eagles in Silver B division at that. Guess PYSA values the out of NTX teams more than the locals that have patronized their tournament for years.

I totally agree with you. Thats total BULL!!!!! Plano has some explaining to do!!! Odyssey and AE were both ripped. I suppose that who ever came up with the brackets must have been smoking something. No respect.

AE Blue is where they should be. As for Odyssey, maybe the manager requested silver division when they applied. Wouldn't be the first D1 team to do so...

off_the_woodwork wrote:

jgomezceiinc wrote:

my2cents wrote:Wow!!! The OK Texans 96 boys with a region 3 ranking of 295, HOUSTON EXPRESS 96B NAVY rank 135
get in gold division over CL D1 teams Ody region III rank
38, American Eagles rank 53. Eagles in Silver B division at that. Guess PYSA values the out of NTX teams more than the locals that have patronized their tournament for years.

I totally agree with you. Thats total BULL!!!!! Plano has some explaining to do!!! Odyssey and AE were both ripped. I suppose that who ever came up with the brackets must have been smoking something. No respect.

AE Blue is where they should be. As for Odyssey, maybe the manager requested silver division when they applied. Wouldn't be the first D1 team to do so...

I can tell you for a fact they did not and are not at all pleased.

off_the_woodwork wrote:

jgomezceiinc wrote:

my2cents wrote:Wow!!! The OK Texans 96 boys with a region 3 ranking of 295, HOUSTON EXPRESS 96B NAVY rank 135
get in gold division over CL D1 teams Ody region III rank
38, American Eagles rank 53. Eagles in Silver B division at that. Guess PYSA values the out of NTX teams more than the locals that have patronized their tournament for years.

I totally agree with you. Thats total BULL!!!!! Plano has some explaining to do!!! Odyssey and AE were both ripped. I suppose that who ever came up with the brackets must have been smoking something. No respect.

AE Blue is where they should be. As for Odyssey, maybe the manager requested silver division when they applied. Wouldn't be the first D1 team to do so...

I can tell you for a fact they did not and are not at all pleased.

my2cents wrote:

off_the_woodwork wrote:

jgomezceiinc wrote:

my2cents wrote:Wow!!! The OK Texans 96 boys with a region 3 ranking of 295, HOUSTON EXPRESS 96B NAVY rank 135
get in gold division over CL D1 teams Ody region III rank
38, American Eagles rank 53. Eagles in Silver B division at that. Guess PYSA values the out of NTX teams more than the locals that have patronized their tournament for years.

I totally agree with you. Thats total BULL!!!!! Plano has some explaining to do!!! Odyssey and AE were both ripped. I suppose that who ever came up with the brackets must have been smoking something. No respect.

AE Blue is where they should be. As for Odyssey, maybe the manager requested silver division when they applied. Wouldn't be the first D1 team to do so...

I can tell you for a fact they did not and are not at all pleased.

Regional rankings for the gold bracket....... Odyssey is a D1 team and reg. rank of 38. WTH!!!!!!!!!!

Regional Ranking
Boys U16 Gold ANDROMEDA FC - U15 PRE-ACADEMY ?
Boys U16 Gold ANDROMEDA FC 96B RED 13
Boys U16 Gold ARKANSAS COMETS FC COMETS 96B PREMIER 34
Boys U16 Gold CAJUN SC 96 FURY BLUE 212
Boys U16 Gold CFJ-LA 96B LOUISIANA FIRE BLUE 66
Boys U16 Gold DALLAS TEXANS 96B WEST WHITE (PREV TEXAS TITANS) 164
Boys U16 Gold DFW TEJANOS 96 PREMIER 20
Boys U16 Gold ECLIPSE 96 BLACK 249
Boys U16 Gold HOUSTON EXPRESS 96B NAVY 135
Boys U16 Gold NYSA CELTIC 96 GREEN 25
Boys U16 Gold OK TEXANS 96 BOYS 295
Boys U16 Gold OMAHA FC 95/96 ELITE 1 ?
Boys U16 Gold SOLAR CHELSEA 96 BOYS 31
Boys U16 Gold TEXAS FIRE SC TEXAS FIRE 96 12
Boys U16 Gold TEXAS RUSH NIKE BOYS 95/96 106
Boys U16 Gold TFC 96 BOYS 29

jgomezceiinc wrote:

my2cents wrote:

off_the_woodwork wrote:

jgomezceiinc wrote:

my2cents wrote:Wow!!! The OK Texans 96 boys with a region 3 ranking of 295, HOUSTON EXPRESS 96B NAVY rank 135
get in gold division over CL D1 teams Ody region III rank
38, American Eagles rank 53. Eagles in Silver B division at that. Guess PYSA values the out of NTX teams more than the locals that have patronized their tournament for years.

I totally agree with you. Thats total BULL!!!!! Plano has some explaining to do!!! Odyssey and AE were both ripped. I suppose that who ever came up with the brackets must have been smoking something. No respect.

AE Blue is where they should be. As for Odyssey, maybe the manager requested silver division when they applied. Wouldn't be the first D1 team to do so...

I can tell you for a fact they did not and are not at all pleased.

Regional rankings for the gold bracket....... Odyssey is a D1 team and reg. rank of 38. WTH!!!!!!!!!!

Regional Ranking
Boys U16 Gold ANDROMEDA FC - U15 PRE-ACADEMY ?
Boys U16 Gold ANDROMEDA FC 96B RED 13
Boys U16 Gold ARKANSAS COMETS FC COMETS 96B PREMIER 34
Boys U16 Gold CAJUN SC 96 FURY BLUE 212
Boys U16 Gold CFJ-LA 96B LOUISIANA FIRE BLUE 66
Boys U16 Gold DALLAS TEXANS 96B WEST WHITE (PREV TEXAS TITANS) 164
Boys U16 Gold DFW TEJANOS 96 PREMIER 20
Boys U16 Gold ECLIPSE 96 BLACK 249
Boys U16 Gold HOUSTON EXPRESS 96B NAVY 135
Boys U16 Gold NYSA CELTIC 96 GREEN 25
Boys U16 Gold OK TEXANS 96 BOYS 295
Boys U16 Gold OMAHA FC 95/96 ELITE 1 ?
Boys U16 Gold SOLAR CHELSEA 96 BOYS 31
Boys U16 Gold TEXAS FIRE SC TEXAS FIRE 96 12
Boys U16 Gold TEXAS RUSH NIKE BOYS 95/96 106
Boys U16 Gold TFC 96 BOYS 29

Not disputing that Ody shouldn't be in the Gold bracket, but using GotSoccer rankings isn't really the best way to justify it as they aren't very accurate when comparing teams from different areas. For instance STX teams play few events which are tracked in GotSoccer so they tend to be very low ranked unless they play Premier League (they get zero credit from GotSoccer for their own local leagues). This being said, I agree PYSA appears to be giving out-of-towners the benefit of the doubt in seeding since 10 of 16 in Gold are not from NTX, whereas Silver has the majority from NTX including a Classic D1 team.

off_the_woodwork wrote:

jgomezceiinc wrote:

my2cents wrote:

off_the_woodwork wrote:

jgomezceiinc wrote:

my2cents wrote:Wow!!! The OK Texans 96 boys with a region 3 ranking of 295, HOUSTON EXPRESS 96B NAVY rank 135
get in gold division over CL D1 teams Ody region III rank
38, American Eagles rank 53. Eagles in Silver B division at that. Guess PYSA values the out of NTX teams more than the locals that have patronized their tournament for years.

I totally agree with you. Thats total BULL!!!!! Plano has some explaining to do!!! Odyssey and AE were both ripped. I suppose that who ever came up with the brackets must have been smoking something. No respect.

AE Blue is where they should be. As for Odyssey, maybe the manager requested silver division when they applied. Wouldn't be the first D1 team to do so...

I can tell you for a fact they did not and are not at all pleased.

Regional rankings for the gold bracket....... Odyssey is a D1 team and reg. rank of 38. WTH!!!!!!!!!!

Regional Ranking
Boys U16 Gold ANDROMEDA FC - U15 PRE-ACADEMY ?
Boys U16 Gold ANDROMEDA FC 96B RED 13
Boys U16 Gold ARKANSAS COMETS FC COMETS 96B PREMIER 34
Boys U16 Gold CAJUN SC 96 FURY BLUE 212
Boys U16 Gold CFJ-LA 96B LOUISIANA FIRE BLUE 66
Boys U16 Gold DALLAS TEXANS 96B WEST WHITE (PREV TEXAS TITANS) 164
Boys U16 Gold DFW TEJANOS 96 PREMIER 20
Boys U16 Gold ECLIPSE 96 BLACK 249
Boys U16 Gold HOUSTON EXPRESS 96B NAVY 135
Boys U16 Gold NYSA CELTIC 96 GREEN 25
Boys U16 Gold OK TEXANS 96 BOYS 295
Boys U16 Gold OMAHA FC 95/96 ELITE 1 ?
Boys U16 Gold SOLAR CHELSEA 96 BOYS 31
Boys U16 Gold TEXAS FIRE SC TEXAS FIRE 96 12
Boys U16 Gold TEXAS RUSH NIKE BOYS 95/96 106
Boys U16 Gold TFC 96 BOYS 29

Not disputing that Ody shouldn't be in the Gold bracket, but using GotSoccer rankings isn't really the best way to justify it as they aren't very accurate when comparing teams from different areas. For instance STX teams play few events which are tracked in GotSoccer so they tend to be very low ranked unless they play Premier League (they get zero credit from GotSoccer for their own local leagues). This being said, I agree PYSA appears to be giving out-of-towners the benefit of the doubt in seeding since 10 of 16 in Gold are not from NTX, whereas Silver has the majority from NTX including a Classic D1 team.

oh well, you still have to play the games. Just disappointing. You just want to see your boys play against the best teams available. Really wishing it would of turned out different

off_the_woodwork wrote:

jgomezceiinc wrote:

my2cents wrote:

off_the_woodwork wrote:

jgomezceiinc wrote:

my2cents wrote:Wow!!! The OK Texans 96 boys with a region 3 ranking of 295, HOUSTON EXPRESS 96B NAVY rank 135
get in gold division over CL D1 teams Ody region III rank
38, American Eagles rank 53. Eagles in Silver B division at that. Guess PYSA values the out of NTX teams more than the locals that have patronized their tournament for years.

I totally agree with you. Thats total BULL!!!!! Plano has some explaining to do!!! Odyssey and AE were both ripped. I suppose that who ever came up with the brackets must have been smoking something. No respect.

AE Blue is where they should be. As for Odyssey, maybe the manager requested silver division when they applied. Wouldn't be the first D1 team to do so...

I can tell you for a fact they did not and are not at all pleased.

Regional rankings for the gold bracket....... Odyssey is a D1 team and reg. rank of 38. WTH!!!!!!!!!!

Regional Ranking
Boys U16 Gold ANDROMEDA FC - U15 PRE-ACADEMY ?
Boys U16 Gold ANDROMEDA FC 96B RED 13
Boys U16 Gold ARKANSAS COMETS FC COMETS 96B PREMIER 34
Boys U16 Gold CAJUN SC 96 FURY BLUE 212
Boys U16 Gold CFJ-LA 96B LOUISIANA FIRE BLUE 66
Boys U16 Gold DALLAS TEXANS 96B WEST WHITE (PREV TEXAS TITANS) 164
Boys U16 Gold DFW TEJANOS 96 PREMIER 20
Boys U16 Gold ECLIPSE 96 BLACK 249
Boys U16 Gold HOUSTON EXPRESS 96B NAVY 135
Boys U16 Gold NYSA CELTIC 96 GREEN 25
Boys U16 Gold OK TEXANS 96 BOYS 295
Boys U16 Gold OMAHA FC 95/96 ELITE 1 ?
Boys U16 Gold SOLAR CHELSEA 96 BOYS 31
Boys U16 Gold TEXAS FIRE SC TEXAS FIRE 96 12
Boys U16 Gold TEXAS RUSH NIKE BOYS 95/96 106
Boys U16 Gold TFC 96 BOYS 29

Not disputing that Ody shouldn't be in the Gold bracket, but using GotSoccer rankings isn't really the best way to justify it as they aren't very accurate when comparing teams from different areas. For instance STX teams play few events which are tracked in GotSoccer so they tend to be very low ranked unless they play Premier League (they get zero credit from GotSoccer for their own local leagues). This being said, I agree PYSA appears to be giving out-of-towners the benefit of the doubt in seeding since 10 of 16 in Gold are not from NTX, whereas Silver has the majority from NTX including a Classic D1 team.

Agree with the gotsoccer comments but unfortunately there is nothing else. What else could they use? I know that last year at the Presidents Cup region III tournament there were teams from the middle Region III states showing up wearing State Champion t-shirts. That still did not get any of them through to the semis as is was NC, STX, FL, and NTX . Common sense says there are not multipple teams from some of these states better than CL D1 teams. Last year PLD 96 group was pretty thin as far as teams in attendance and the NTX teams carried it. Next year they had better hope the out of towners show again because I think the NTX teams that got snubbed won't be back.

Same thing happened to CC West a couple of years ago when they got promoted to D1. They put in to play gold and were sent to silver. Ody needs a good season in D1 before they start complaining. Besides, the team that beat Ody in last years silver final is also in the silver again this year so Ody needs to take care of business and win the tournament.

No PYSA should do what the tournament guidelines specify which is seed brackets according to the best available information. There is no info out there that can justify some of the selections for gold above ODY, They don't care about winning silver, they care about facing the best competition avaible to improve them for CL and PLW league play. Last years PLD run was a waste of time for them as they blew out every team until the final.

my2cents wrote:No PYSA should do what the tournament guidelines specify which is seed brackets according to the best available information. There is no info out there that can justify some of the selections for gold above ODY, They don't care about winning silver, they care about facing the best competition avaible to improve them for CL and PLW league play. Last years PLD run was a waste of time for them as they blew out every team until the final.

See if your manager/coach can remedy the situation .

Preliminary schedules are posted: http://events.gotsport.com/events/default.aspx?EventID=17069

my2cents wrote:No PYSA should do what the tournament guidelines specify which is seed brackets according to the best available information. There is no info out there that can justify some of the selections for gold above ODY, They don't care about winning silver, they care about facing the best competition avaible to improve them for CL and PLW league play. Last years PLD run was a waste of time for them as they blew out every team until the final.

Until the final, that's the one that counts.

norwich city wrote:

my2cents wrote:No PYSA should do what the tournament guidelines specify which is seed brackets according to the best available information. There is no info out there that can justify some of the selections for gold above ODY, They don't care about winning silver, they care about facing the best competition avaible to improve them for CL and PLW league play. Last years PLD run was a waste of time for them as they blew out every team until the final.

Until the final, that's the one that counts.

Maybe to most but not me if it means 5 blow outs to get there. I would rather be three and done against top teams then trophy hunting against weaker ones . Schedules show Ody moved to gold.

I remember a few years back, this same 96 Ody team came in second place in the Plano League and were mistakenly given the first place trophies. When the error was discovered and called out, Ody refused to return the trophies so that they could be given to their rightful owners. Sad.

bendit wrote:I remember a few years back, this same 96 Ody team came in second place in the Plano League and were mistakenly given the first place trophies. When the error was discovered and called out, Ody refused to return the trophies so that they could be given to their rightful owners. Sad.

Sad what old age does to memories. First of all it was their first year in select so that is over 5 years ago. Second Ody was in Plano B in the fall and went undefeated, and under the rules then, was promoted to Plano A for the spring. They then went undefeated in Plano A coming in first in the standings. The manager was given the trophies and they were given to the boys who were well aware of where they were in the standings. No team had won both in one year before. Plano then decided that since ODY was not in A division all year that they would not only not be awarded first place but would not be invited to the Challenge games either. The parents paid PYSA to replace the trophies.
What is sad though is that 5 years later that you want to smear a team that has come in first or second in their division every year .

my2cents wrote:

bendit wrote:I remember a few years back, this same 96 Ody team came in second place in the Plano League and were mistakenly given the first place trophies. When the error was discovered and called out, Ody refused to return the trophies so that they could be given to their rightful owners. Sad.

Sad what old age does to memories. First of all it was their first year in select so that is over 5 years ago. Second Ody was in Plano B in the fall and went undefeated, and under the rules then, was promoted to Plano A for the spring. They then went undefeated in Plano A coming in first in the standings. The manager was given the trophies and they were given to the boys who were well aware of where they were in the standings. No team had won both in one year before. Plano then decided that since ODY was not in A division all year that they would not only not be awarded first place but would not be invited to the Challenge games either. The parents paid PYSA to replace the trophies.
What is sad though is that 5 years later that you want to smear a team that has come in first or second in their division every year .

And in the immortal words of Paul Harvey "Now you have the rest of the story" lol

rowdy39tx wrote:

my2cents wrote:

bendit wrote:I remember a few years back, this same 96 Ody team came in second place in the Plano League and were mistakenly given the first place trophies. When the error was discovered and called out, Ody refused to return the trophies so that they could be given to their rightful owners. Sad.

Sad what old age does to memories. First of all it was their first year in select so that is over 5 years ago. Second Ody was in Plano B in the fall and went undefeated, and under the rules then, was promoted to Plano A for the spring. They then went undefeated in Plano A coming in first in the standings. The manager was given the trophies and they were given to the boys who were well aware of where they were in the standings. No team had won both in one year before. Plano then decided that since ODY was not in A division all year that they would not only not be awarded first place but would not be invited to the Challenge games either. The parents paid PYSA to replace the trophies.
What is sad though is that 5 years later that you want to smear a team that has come in first or second in their division every year .

And in the immortal words of Paul Harvey "Now you have the rest of the story" lol

Yeah... and who cares. Personally, I hope they win D1. They deserve going to go to Dallas Cup and all that goes with it.