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Post by indyfc 8/13/2012, 2:48 pm

Any word of what 00 teams are playing in the Plano Labor Day Tournament?
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Post by sumbro 8/18/2012, 11:12 pm

The U13 Boys Age Group accepted teams are listed in alphabetical order:

1 ANDROMEDA FC 00B GOLD
2 ANDROMEDA FC 00B WHITE
3 ARKANSAS COMETS FC 00B PREMIER
4 ATLAS AGUILA REAL 99 ATLAS AGUILA REAL
5 CYSA COPPELL UNITED
6 DALLAS TEXANS 00 BOYS WEST
7 DALLAS TEXANS 00B DALLAS
8 DALLAS TEXANS 00B NORTH
9 DALLAS TEXANS 00B RED
10 DALLAS TEXANS 00B WHITE
11 DEPORTIVO CHIVAS 00B (CHARLES)
12 DFW TEJANOS 2000 BOYS PREMIER
13 DFW TEJANOS TEJANOS 00 ELITE
14 EAST TEXAS UNITED FC 00B (FORMERLY AC LONGVIEW 00B)
15 ECLIPSE 00 B BLACK
16 ECLIPSE 00 B WHITE
17 ECLIPSE 00B SILVER
18 FC DALLAS 00B
19 FC DALLAS 00B SILVER
20 FC DALLAS YOUTH 00B EAST
21 FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B PREMIER
22 FC FRISCO '00
23 FC TIGERS
24 GEORGETOWN FORCE FC 00B WHITE
25 HIGH PLAINS DRIFTERS 2000 BOYS
26 HOUSTONIANS FC RAYADOS 00
27 KERNOW STORM FC KERNOWSTORM00B
28 KLEINAZTECAS
29 LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 00 BOYS ALONSO
30 LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 00 BOYS KUYT
31 LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 00 BOYS LIDDELL
32 MISSISSIPPI FC MFC FIRE U13B PREMIER
33 PLANO YSA TITANS 99BR - LEARMONT
34 SA UNITED 00B GOLD
35 SAN ANGELO FC 00 BOYS
36 SOLAR CHELSEA 00 BOYS
37 SOUTH LAKES COSMOS 00 BLUE
38 SOUTH LAKES COSMOS 00 WHITE
39 SPACE CITY FC 00B
40 TEXAS TOROS S.C. TEXAS TOROS '00
41 TFC 00 BOYS BLUE
42 TUSC BLITZ-THUNDER UNITED 00 BOYS
43 TUSC BLITZ-THUNDER UNITED 00 BOYS WHITE
44 WACO BLAST FC WACO BLAST '00B
45 WIZARDS FC WIZARDS 00
46 TBD

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Post by rvpformvp 8/20/2012, 1:26 pm

wow, that's a nice list of teams participating. Plenty of teams to have 3 flights just like last year. Should be a good tournament. cheers
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Post by Hatrick3 8/20/2012, 2:39 pm

No kidding that is a lot. I've always wondered how you compare the Arlington divisions to Classic divisions. For example, what would be a D1 Arlington team compared to a classic divison? Does a D1 classic = D1 Arlington? Or is there no magic formula? I'm counting about 9 D1 classic, 6 D2 classic,6 D3 classic and 5 PP teams without out of town teams or teams I don't know. Where would the arlington teams fit in for brackets?

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Post by rvpformvp 8/20/2012, 2:57 pm

Thunder3 wrote:No kidding that is a lot. I've always wondered how you compare the Arlington divisions to Classic divisions. For example, what would be a D1 Arlington team compared to a classic divison? Does a D1 classic = D1 Arlington? Or is there no magic formula? I'm counting about 9 D1 classic, 6 D2 classic,6 D3 classic and 5 PP teams without out of town teams or teams I don't know. Where would the arlington teams fit in for brackets?

Arlington is comparable to Plano (PPL). My guess is there will be a gold flight for D1 and top ranked out of town teams (pretty sure a team from Arkansas took it all last year); a silver flight for D2, D3 and similarly ranked out of town teams, and a bronze flight for all remaining teams from Plano, Arlington, etc. This may not be exact as teams list which flight they prefer when registering. That is just a guess.

Nice thing is there are plenty of teams so everyone should get seeded where they can be competitive.
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Post by rvpformvp 8/20/2012, 3:02 pm

rvpformvp wrote:
Thunder3 wrote:No kidding that is a lot. I've always wondered how you compare the Arlington divisions to Classic divisions. For example, what would be a D1 Arlington team compared to a classic divison? Does a D1 classic = D1 Arlington? Or is there no magic formula? I'm counting about 9 D1 classic, 6 D2 classic,6 D3 classic and 5 PP teams without out of town teams or teams I don't know. Where would the arlington teams fit in for brackets?

Arlington is comparable to Plano (PPL). My guess is there will be a gold flight for D1 and top ranked out of town teams (pretty sure a team from Arkansas took it all last year); a silver flight for D2, D3 and similarly ranked out of town teams, and a bronze flight for all remaining teams from Plano, Arlington, etc. This may not be exact as teams list which flight they prefer when registering. That is just a guess.

Nice thing is there are plenty of teams so everyone should get seeded where they can be competitive.

I see Arkansas Comets playing again. That is team from last year that won it all and they looked pretty darn good doing it.
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Post by Hatrick3 8/20/2012, 4:18 pm

Apreciate the info. I never knew the comparison between the two. Now I do.

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Post by indyfc 8/20/2012, 5:00 pm

rvpformvp wrote:
Thunder3 wrote:No kidding that is a lot. I've always wondered how you compare the Arlington divisions to Classic divisions. For example, what would be a D1 Arlington team compared to a classic divison? Does a D1 classic = D1 Arlington? Or is there no magic formula? I'm counting about 9 D1 classic, 6 D2 classic,6 D3 classic and 5 PP teams without out of town teams or teams I don't know. Where would the arlington teams fit in for brackets?

Arlington is comparable to Plano (PPL). My guess is there will be a gold flight for D1 and top ranked out of town teams (pretty sure a team from Arkansas took it all last year); a silver flight for D2, D3 and similarly ranked out of town teams, and a bronze flight for all remaining teams from Plano, Arlington, etc. This may not be exact as teams list which flight they prefer when registering. That is just a guess.

Nice thing is there are plenty of teams so everyone should get seeded where they can be competitive.

This is probably what the brackets should look like:

Gold

3 ARKANSAS COMETS FC 00B PREMIER
7 DALLAS TEXANS 00B DALLAS
36 SOLAR CHELSEA 00 BOYS
9 DALLAS TEXANS 00B RED
20 FC DALLAS YOUTH 00B EAST
6 DALLAS TEXANS 00 BOYS WEST
45 WIZARDS FC WIZARDS 00
10 DALLAS TEXANS 00B WHITE
11 DEPORTIVO CHIVAS 00B (CHARLES)
26 HOUSTONIANS FC RAYADOS 00
32 MISSISSIPPI FC MFC FIRE U13B PREMIER
42 TUSC BLITZ-THUNDER UNITED 00 BOYS
12 DFW TEJANOS 2000 BOYS PREMIER
2 ANDROMEDA FC 00B WHITE
18 FC DALLAS 00B
30 LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 00 BOYS KUYT


Silver 1

21 FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B PREMIER
28 KLEINAZTECAS
39 SPACE CITY FC 00B
40 TEXAS TOROS S.C. TEXAS TOROS '00
1 ANDROMEDA FC 00B GOLD
14 EAST TEXAS UNITED FC 00B (FORMERLY AC LONGVIEW 00B)
27 KERNOW STORM FC KERNOWSTORM00B
31 LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 00 BOYS LIDDELL
37 SOUTH LAKES COSMOS 00 BLUE
41 TFC 00 BOYS BLUE
44 WACO BLAST FC WACO BLAST '00B
15 ECLIPSE 00 B BLACK
24 GEORGETOWN FORCE FC 00B WHITE
25 HIGH PLAINS DRIFTERS 2000 BOYS


Silver 2

8 DALLAS TEXANS 00B NORTH
13 DFW TEJANOS TEJANOS 00 ELITE
16 ECLIPSE 00 B WHITE
22 FC FRISCO '00
23 FC TIGERS
29 LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 00 BOYS ALONSO
33 PLANO YSA TITANS 99BR - LEARMONT
35 SAN ANGELO FC 00 BOYS
4 ATLAS AGUILA REAL 99 ATLAS AGUILA REAL
19 FC DALLAS 00B SILVER
5 CYSA COPPELL UNITED
17 ECLIPSE 00B SILVER
34 SA UNITED 00B GOLD
38 SOUTH LAKES COSMOS 00 WHITE
43 TUSC BLITZ-THUNDER UNITED 00 BOYS WHITE
46 TBD
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Post by SoccerXXX 8/20/2012, 9:01 pm

Indy,
you beat me to the punch. I was going to see how everyone thought the breakouts for the divisions would be done. You did a great job on it.
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Post by indyfc 8/20/2012, 11:10 pm

SoccerXXX wrote:Indy,
you beat me to the punch. I was going to see how everyone thought the breakouts for the divisions would be done. You did a great job on it.

Here are the actual flights:

Gold

Boys U13 Gold ARKANSAS COMETS FC 00B PREMIER
Boys U13 Gold ATLAS AGUILA REAL 99 ATLAS AGUILA REAL
Boys U13 Gold DALLAS TEXANS 00B DALLAS
Boys U13 Gold DALLAS TEXANS 00B RED
Boys U13 Gold DALLAS TEXANS 00B WHITE
Boys U13 Gold DEPORTIVO CHIVAS 00B (CHARLES)
Boys U13 Gold DFW TEJANOS 2000 BOYS PREMIER
Boys U13 Gold ECLIPSE 00 B BLACK
Boys U13 Gold FC DALLAS YOUTH 00B EAST
Boys U13 Gold FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B PREMIER
Boys U13 Gold HOUSTONIANS FC RAYADOS 00
Boys U13 Gold MISSISSIPPI FC MFC FIRE U13B PREMIER
Boys U13 Gold SOLAR CHELSEA 00 BOYS
Boys U13 Gold TEXAS TOROS S.C. TEXAS TOROS '00
Boys U13 Gold TUSC BLITZ-THUNDER UNITED 00 BOYS
Boys U13 Gold WIZARDS FC WIZARDS 00


Silver A

Boys U13 Silver A ANDROMEDA FC 00B GOLD
Boys U13 Silver A ANDROMEDA FC 00B WHITE
Boys U13 Silver A DALLAS TEXANS 00 BOYS WEST
Boys U13 Silver A EAST TEXAS UNITED FC 00B (FORMERLY AC LONGVIEW 00B)
Boys U13 Silver A ECLIPSE 00 B WHITE
Boys U13 Silver A ECLIPSE 00B SILVER
Boys U13 Silver A FC DALLAS 00B
Boys U13 Silver A KERNOW STORM FC KERNOWSTORM00B
Boys U13 Silver A KLEIN AZTECAS
Boys U13 Silver A LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 00 BOYS KUYT
Boys U13 Silver A LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 00 BOYS LIDDELL
Boys U13 Silver A SA UNITED 00B GOLD
Boys U13 Silver A SPACE CITY FC 00B
Boys U13 Silver A TFC 00 BOYS BLUE
Boys U13 Silver A TUSC BLITZ-THUNDER UNITED 00 BOYS WHITE
Boys U13 Silver A WACO BLAST FC WACO BLAST '00B


Silver B

Boys U13 Silver B CYSA COPPELL UNITED
Boys U13 Silver B DALLAS TEXANS 00B NORTH
Boys U13 Silver B DFW TEJANOS TEJANOS 00 ELITE
Boys U13 Silver B FC DALLAS 00B SILVER
Boys U13 Silver B FC FRISCO '00
Boys U13 Silver B FC TIGERS
Boys U13 Silver B GEORGETOWN FORCE FC 00B WHITE
Boys U13 Silver B HIGH PLAINS DRIFTERS 2000 BOYS
Boys U13 Silver B LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 00 BOYS ALONSO
Boys U13 Silver B MANCHESTER UNITED RED DEVILS 00
Boys U13 Silver B PLANO YSA TITANS 99BR - LEARMONT
Boys U13 Silver B SAN ANGELO FC 00 BOYS
Boys U13 Silver B SOUTH LAKES COSMOS 00 BLUE
Boys U13 Silver B SOUTH LAKES COSMOS 00 WHITE

A couple of observations:

ยท Donโ€™t know who that Atlas Aguilas Real 99 team is, but I do know who that Eclipse 00 Black team is and they do not belong in the Gold Bracket. This is Plano catering to out of town teams and I hate that FCD Suarez and Andro White have to pay the price for it.

ยท I also donโ€™t know if Texas Toros should be ahead of FCD Suarez or Andro White to get into the Gold Bracket. They are a solid team, but FCD Suarez and Andro White have a slight better history than they do.

ยท FCD Premier 01 should not be in Gold Bracket over FCD Suarez or Andro White. While they will be competitive, there is no reason why a team with a good record vs. teams in the Gold Bracket playing within their own age group should be knocked down to Silver to accommodate a team playing up. They should be behind any D2 00 team or credible out of town 00 team.


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Post by Laroja_2012 8/21/2012, 7:47 am

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ยท DT West in the Silver Bracket???? They lost the Finals to Arkansas Comets last year. Based on their team historical performance Plano should have placed them in the Gold Bracket. The only way I see this happening is if the coach requested to play in the Silver Bracket. What does that say about what the coach thinks about his team??? They will be playing D1 teams in CL, why not in the tournaments???

Actually DT West is going to play in D2, with a new coach and new kids, definitely not the same team as last year.

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Post by indyfc 8/21/2012, 9:14 am

Laroja_2012 wrote:
indyfc wrote:
ยท DT West in the Silver Bracket???? They lost the Finals to Arkansas Comets last year. Based on their team historical performance Plano should have placed them in the Gold Bracket. The only way I see this happening is if the coach requested to play in the Silver Bracket. What does that say about what the coach thinks about his team??? They will be playing D1 teams in CL, why not in the tournaments???

Actually DT West is going to play in D2, with a new coach and new kids, definitely not the same team as last year.

You are absolutely right LaRoja2012, that was my mistake. I was looking at the CL standings from last season and didn't realize that DT West had dropped to play in D2 this upcoming season. My apologies to the team and coach for the comments and mis-information. They are where they should be for the right reasons.

Best of luck to them in the tournament.
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Post by indyfc 8/21/2012, 9:39 am

Here's a look at what the brackets might look like for the Gold flight. Again, MIGHT look like, this is just a guess!

Bracket A
Boys U13 Gold ARKANSAS COMETS FC 00B PREMIER
Boys U13 Gold DALLAS TEXANS 00B WHITE
Boys U13 Gold DFW TEJANOS 2000 BOYS PREMIER
Boys U13 Gold ECLIPSE 00 B BLACK
Bracket B
Boys U13 Gold DALLAS TEXANS 00B DALLAS
Boys U13 Gold DEPORTIVO CHIVAS 00B (CHARLES)
Boys U13 Gold HOUSTONIANS FC RAYADOS 00
Boys U13 Gold ATLAS AGUILA REAL 99 ATLAS AGUILA REAL
Bracket C
Boys U13 Gold SOLAR CHELSEA 00 BOYS
Boys U13 Gold WIZARDS FC WIZARDS 00
Boys U13 Gold MISSISSIPPI FC MFC FIRE U13B PREMIER
Boys U13 Gold FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B PREMIER
Bracket D
Boys U13 Gold DALLAS TEXANS 00B RED
Boys U13 Gold FC DALLAS YOUTH 00B EAST
Boys U13 Gold TUSC BLITZ-THUNDER UNITED 00 BOYS
Boys U13 Gold TEXAS TOROS S.C. TEXAS TOROS '00
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Post by SoccerXXX 8/23/2012, 3:50 pm

So how far in advance do the schedules come out. I know there are a lot of teams to deal with but excited to watch some soccer! Very Happy
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Post by krowdkontrol 8/23/2012, 4:02 pm

SoccerXXX wrote:So how far in advance do the schedules come out. I know there are a lot of teams to deal with but excited to watch some soccer! Very Happy

I read in the 03 Forum that they might come out on Monday, August 27th.
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Post by earbucket 8/23/2012, 5:30 pm

This says it is a preliminary schedule. http://events.gotsport.com/events/resultsgrid.aspx?EventID=25714&GroupID=227287

Brackets cuurrently are

Boys U13 Gold
Bracket 1 Team 1 Team 2 Team 3 Team 4 Points Finish
001) SOLAR CHELSEA 00 BOYS - - -
002) DEPORTIVO CHIVAS 00B (CHARLES) - - -
003) MISSISSIPPI FC MFC FIRE U13B PREMIER - - -
004) DFW TEJANOS 2000 BOYS PREMIER - - -

Bracket 2 Team 1 Team 2 Team 3 Team 4 Points Finish
001) DALLAS TEXANS 00B RED - - -
002) HOUSTONIANS FC RAYADOS 00 - - -
003) FC DALLAS YOUTH 00B EAST - - -
004) ARKANSAS COMETS FC 00B PREMIER - - -

Bracket 3 Team 1 Team 2 Team 3 Team 4 Points Finish
001) FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B PREMIER - - -
002) DALLAS TEXANS 00B WHITE - - -
003) ECLIPSE 00 B BLACK - - -
004) TEXAS TOROS S.C. TEXAS TOROS '00 - - -

Bracket 4 Team 1 Team 2 Team 3 Team 4 Points Finish
001) DALLAS TEXANS 00B DALLAS - - -
002) TUSC BLITZ-THUNDER UNITED 00 BOYS - - -
003) WIZARDS FC WIZARDS 00 - - -
004) ATLAS AGUILA REAL 99 ATLAS AGUILA REAL - - -

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Post by indyfc 8/23/2012, 7:03 pm

earbucket wrote:This says it is a preliminary schedule. http://events.gotsport.com/events/resultsgrid.aspx?EventID=25714&GroupID=227287

Brackets cuurrently are

Boys U13 Gold
Bracket 1 Team 1 Team 2 Team 3 Team 4 Points Finish
001) SOLAR CHELSEA 00 BOYS - - -
002) DEPORTIVO CHIVAS 00B (CHARLES) - - -
003) MISSISSIPPI FC MFC FIRE U13B PREMIER - - -
004) DFW TEJANOS 2000 BOYS PREMIER - - -

Bracket 2 Team 1 Team 2 Team 3 Team 4 Points Finish
001) DALLAS TEXANS 00B RED - - -
002) HOUSTONIANS FC RAYADOS 00 - - -
003) FC DALLAS YOUTH 00B EAST - - -
004) ARKANSAS COMETS FC 00B PREMIER - - -

Bracket 3 Team 1 Team 2 Team 3 Team 4 Points Finish
001) FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B PREMIER - - -
002) DALLAS TEXANS 00B WHITE - - -
003) ECLIPSE 00 B BLACK - - -
004) TEXAS TOROS S.C. TEXAS TOROS '00 - - -

Bracket 4 Team 1 Team 2 Team 3 Team 4 Points Finish
001) DALLAS TEXANS 00B DALLAS - - -
002) TUSC BLITZ-THUNDER UNITED 00 BOYS - - -
003) WIZARDS FC WIZARDS 00 - - -
004) ATLAS AGUILA REAL 99 ATLAS AGUILA REAL - - -

Man I was way off on my prediction of the brackets!!! Well let me change that..... PLD staff is way off on the seedings IMO....

IndyfcPLD
ARK COMETSSolar
DT 00B DALLASDT Red
SOLARFCD Prem 01
DT REDDT Dallas
FCD EASTTUSC Blitz
WIZARDSDT White
CHIVASHoustonians
DT WHITEChivas
DFW TEJANOS MFC Fire
HOUSTONIANSFCD East
MFC FIREEclipse
TUSC BLITZWizards
TOROSAtlas Aguilas
FCD 01B PREMToros
ATLAS AGUILA REALArk Comets
ECLIPSEDFW Tejanos



Bracket 2 is the group of death!!!! A couple of very good teams will be going home too early IMO.

Bracket 3 is very week. I think either of the 2 teams from bracket 2 that will be eliminated during pool play would easily win or at least come in second place in this bracket.

Brackets 1 & 4 look pretty well balanced.

Predictions anyone???
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Post by earbucket 8/23/2012, 9:06 pm

This has to be premature. To have the AR Comets as the second last seed when they won it last year makes no sense. Top 4 seeds should be Comets, Solar, DT Craft amd FCD East. Next 4 should be Wizards, DT, MS team,Chivas. Next 4 - Houston, FCD Premier, Tejanos, Atlas 99 (why 99s), DT White, Toros, Tulsa, Eclipse.

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Post by Laroja_2012 8/24/2012, 4:31 pm

schedules are not available. pretty sure they are making some changes!

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Post by soccer23 8/25/2012, 12:01 am

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ยท DT West in the Silver Bracket???? They lost the Finals to Arkansas Comets last year. Based on their team historical performance Plano should have placed them in the Gold Bracket. The only way I see this happening is if the coach requested to play in the Silver Bracket. What does that say about what the coach thinks about his team??? They will be playing D1 teams in CL, why not in the tournaments???

Actually DT West is going to play in D2, with a new coach and new kids, definitely not the same team as last year.

Is Dallas Texans 00 Boys West the same or substantially similar to what was the Comets Blue 00 team that has been in D3 for the past two seasons?

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Post by jimulon6 8/26/2012, 6:22 am

Pretty sure the Comets club was swallowed up by FC Dallas.

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Post by rvpformvp 8/26/2012, 9:32 am

it looks to be the old comets coach that is now coaching this team, so maybe he has a few players from last years team. pretty sure there are a few players from the dt red west team still there too. so maybe a mix of comets, dt red west and additional players picked up, but that is just a guess.

So is ZB really coaching two 00 teams? DT website shows him coaching this D2 team and the D1 boys team.
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Post by Laroja_2012 8/26/2012, 9:42 am

rvpformvp wrote:it looks to be the old comets coach that is now coaching this team, so maybe he has a few players from last years team. pretty sure there are a few players from the dt red west team still there too. so maybe a mix of comets, dt red west and additional players picked up, but that is just a guess.

So is ZB really coaching two 00 teams? DT website shows him coaching this D2 team and the D1 boys team.

Yes, he is! He is also coaching former Maric's D1 team (or what it's left of it after PA).

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