Primetime Winter Blast for 03 Boys

Does anyone have the link to the schedule?

www.primetimesportz.com is the main website. you can link through from there.

odie1993 wrote:www.primetimesportz.com is the main website. you can link through from there.

Gracias

odie1993 wrote:www.primetimesportz.com is the main website. you can link through from there.

Gracias

Riquelme wrote:Does anyone have the link to the schedule?

I hate primetime.........10 days before the league starts and the schedules are not up. WTH!! i hope they don't put that sorry ref that has a cast in his knee who stands in one spot of the side line and calls off sides from there. his always stepping inside the field and doesn't move. last seaoson we were right behind him and he called offside twice on the opposite team and all the parents were like ur an idiot that kid is not offside. then only bc he has a badge he think he is an FBI and starts yelling at the parents and telling us he is going to kick us out of the field. "well dummy do your job right". This is coming from a "Grade 7" ref, who has made many mistakes, but being in a linesman you have one simple job and that is OFFSIDE, how hard can that be. I wonder if Jerry is the assigner. i think all ref need to get assest every 3 games.

urahater wrote:

Riquelme wrote:Does anyone have the link to the schedule?

I hate primetime.........10 days before the league starts and the schedules are not up. WTH!! i hope they don't put that sorry ref that has a cast in his knee who stands in one spot of the side line and calls off sides from there. his always stepping inside the field and doesn't move. last seaoson we were right behind him and he called offside twice on the opposite team and all the parents were like ur an idiot that kid is not offside. then only bc he has a badge he think he is an FBI and starts yelling at the parents and telling us he is going to kick us out of the field. "well dummy do your job right". This is coming from a "Grade 7" ref, who has made many mistakes, but being in a linesman you have one simple job and that is OFFSIDE, how hard can that be. I wonder if Jerry is the assigner. i think all ref need to get assest every 3 games.

I think I know who your talkin about. He is a feisty and cranky old goat. He yelled at me for telling my own kid to not leave his position. Guys an idiot.

Riquelme wrote:

urahater wrote:

Riquelme wrote:Does anyone have the link to the schedule?

I hate primetime.........10 days before the league starts and the schedules are not up. WTH!! i hope they don't put that sorry ref that has a cast in his knee who stands in one spot of the side line and calls off sides from there. his always stepping inside the field and doesn't move. last seaoson we were right behind him and he called offside twice on the opposite team and all the parents were like ur an idiot that kid is not offside. then only bc he has a badge he think he is an FBI and starts yelling at the parents and telling us he is going to kick us out of the field. "well dummy do your job right". This is coming from a "Grade 7" ref, who has made many mistakes, but being in a linesman you have one simple job and that is OFFSIDE, how hard can that be. I wonder if Jerry is the assigner. i think all ref need to get assest every 3 games.

I think I know who your talkin about. He is a feisty and cranky old goat. He yelled at me for telling my own kid to not leave his position. Guys an idiot.

Well, you should not be coaching from the parent side of the field. every coach will tell you that...

odie1993 wrote:

Riquelme wrote:

urahater wrote:

Riquelme wrote:Does anyone have the link to the schedule?

I hate primetime.........10 days before the league starts and the schedules are not up. WTH!! i hope they don't put that sorry ref that has a cast in his knee who stands in one spot of the side line and calls off sides from there. his always stepping inside the field and doesn't move. last seaoson we were right behind him and he called offside twice on the opposite team and all the parents were like ur an idiot that kid is not offside. then only bc he has a badge he think he is an FBI and starts yelling at the parents and telling us he is going to kick us out of the field. "well dummy do your job right". This is coming from a "Grade 7" ref, who has made many mistakes, but being in a linesman you have one simple job and that is OFFSIDE, how hard can that be. I wonder if Jerry is the assigner. i think all ref need to get assest every 3 games.

I think I know who your talkin about. He is a feisty and cranky old goat. He yelled at me for telling my own kid to not leave his position. Guys an idiot.

Well, you should not be coaching from the parent side of the field. every coach will tell you that...

Well the coach of the team can ask me to stop but not the ref. Let's not get into a debate of what a ref can or cannot do. Assuming a ref can shut up a parent when the parent is speaking to their own kid would lead you to believe that a ref can shut the fans up at a real soccer game.

RQ, it's probably a good idea to let the coach and ref manage the game, while the parents watch and enjoy.

finish1 wrote:RQ, it's probably a good idea to let the coach and ref manage the game, while the parents watch and enjoy.

Good idea or not I'm not talking about doing it the whole game. I will give you an example of what I'm talking about. Dad on the sideline sees his kid crash into another kid and start limping slightly. Dad has not done anything but cheer. So he tells his kid to shake it off. He says it pretty loud and repeats it again. The ref comes up to him and tells him to be quiet or he will have to leave the game. This is for real because I was 4 ft away. That is abuse of power. The Dad told the ref he was talking to his son and then the ref said the line that should be reserved for someone questioning all his calls. Stop talking or youre out.

What gives the refs the right to talk to a parent like that?

Riquelme wrote:

finish1 wrote:RQ, it's probably a good idea to let the coach and ref manage the game, while the parents watch and enjoy.

Good idea or not I'm not talking about doing it the whole game. I will give you an example of what I'm talking about. Dad on the sideline sees his kid crash into another kid and start limping slightly. Dad has not done anything but cheer. So he tells his kid to shake it off. He says it pretty loud and repeats it again. The ref comes up to him and tells him to be quiet or he will have to leave the game. This is for real because I was 4 ft away. That is abuse of power. The Dad told the ref he was talking to his son and then the ref said the line that should be reserved for someone questioning all his calls. Stop talking or youre out.

What gives the refs the right to talk to a parent like that?

endless abuse by the parents of that ref at every other game. they hear yelling in their direction and have no desire to put up with it. I hear parents complain about the stupidest crap and calls they have no clue on because the throw in or call went against their team. they have no idea whether the call was right but yell to yell.

so a parent yelling to his son on the field could have easily been interrupted as an attack on the ref. was the ref right in this instance, no. does he have a right to have a no nonsense approach on the issue of yelling, absolutely.

odie1993 wrote:

Riquelme wrote:

finish1 wrote:RQ, it's probably a good idea to let the coach and ref manage the game, while the parents watch and enjoy.

Good idea or not I'm not talking about doing it the whole game. I will give you an example of what I'm talking about. Dad on the sideline sees his kid crash into another kid and start limping slightly. Dad has not done anything but cheer. So he tells his kid to shake it off. He says it pretty loud and repeats it again. The ref comes up to him and tells him to be quiet or he will have to leave the game. This is for real because I was 4 ft away. That is abuse of power. The Dad told the ref he was talking to his son and then the ref said the line that should be reserved for someone questioning all his calls. Stop talking or youre out.

What gives the refs the right to talk to a parent like that?

endless abuse by the parents of that ref at every other game. they hear yelling in their direction and have no desire to put up with it. I hear parents complain about the stupidest crap and calls they have no clue on because the throw in or call went against their team. they have no idea whether the call was right but yell to yell.

so a parent yelling to his son on the field could have easily been interrupted as an attack on the ref. was the ref right in this instance, no. does he have a right to have a no nonsense approach on the issue of yelling, absolutely.

Wrong. Refs feelings should not come into play. They are the professionals correct? I mean it's the big bad parents whose feelings cause all the trouble. I have met good refs who instead of adding gas to the flame actually control the situation and treat parents with respect and and are given respect in return. What do these good refs have in common? Thick skin. There are too many thin skinned refs who worry more about what parents are saying than to make sure their ARs are doing their job.

Riquelme wrote:

odie1993 wrote:

Riquelme wrote:

finish1 wrote:RQ, it's probably a good idea to let the coach and ref manage the game, while the parents watch and enjoy.

Good idea or not I'm not talking about doing it the whole game. I will give you an example of what I'm talking about. Dad on the sideline sees his kid crash into another kid and start limping slightly. Dad has not done anything but cheer. So he tells his kid to shake it off. He says it pretty loud and repeats it again. The ref comes up to him and tells him to be quiet or he will have to leave the game. This is for real because I was 4 ft away. That is abuse of power. The Dad told the ref he was talking to his son and then the ref said the line that should be reserved for someone questioning all his calls. Stop talking or youre out.

What gives the refs the right to talk to a parent like that?

endless abuse by the parents of that ref at every other game. they hear yelling in their direction and have no desire to put up with it. I hear parents complain about the stupidest crap and calls they have no clue on because the throw in or call went against their team. they have no idea whether the call was right but yell to yell.

so a parent yelling to his son on the field could have easily been interrupted as an attack on the ref. was the ref right in this instance, no. does he have a right to have a no nonsense approach on the issue of yelling, absolutely.

Wrong. Refs feelings should not come into play. They are the professionals correct? I mean it's the big bad parents whose feelings cause all the trouble. I have met good refs who instead of adding gas to the flame actually control the situation and treat parents with respect and and are given respect in return. What do these good refs have in common? Thick skin. There are too many thin skinned refs who worry more about what parents are saying than to make sure their ARs are doing their job.

your wrong.

ref hater.

odie1993 wrote:

Riquelme wrote:

odie1993 wrote:

Riquelme wrote:

finish1 wrote:RQ, it's probably a good idea to let the coach and ref manage the game, while the parents watch and enjoy.

Good idea or not I'm not talking about doing it the whole game. I will give you an example of what I'm talking about. Dad on the sideline sees his kid crash into another kid and start limping slightly. Dad has not done anything but cheer. So he tells his kid to shake it off. He says it pretty loud and repeats it again. The ref comes up to him and tells him to be quiet or he will have to leave the game. This is for real because I was 4 ft away. That is abuse of power. The Dad told the ref he was talking to his son and then the ref said the line that should be reserved for someone questioning all his calls. Stop talking or youre out.

What gives the refs the right to talk to a parent like that?

endless abuse by the parents of that ref at every other game. they hear yelling in their direction and have no desire to put up with it. I hear parents complain about the stupidest crap and calls they have no clue on because the throw in or call went against their team. they have no idea whether the call was right but yell to yell.

so a parent yelling to his son on the field could have easily been interrupted as an attack on the ref. was the ref right in this instance, no. does he have a right to have a no nonsense approach on the issue of yelling, absolutely.

Wrong. Refs feelings should not come into play. They are the professionals correct? I mean it's the big bad parents whose feelings cause all the trouble. I have met good refs who instead of adding gas to the flame actually control the situation and treat parents with respect and and are given respect in return. What do these good refs have in common? Thick skin. There are too many thin skinned refs who worry more about what parents are saying than to make sure their ARs are doing their job.

your wrong.

ref hater.

No. I'm right, but I respect your view.

odie1993 wrote:

Riquelme wrote:

odie1993 wrote:

Riquelme wrote:

finish1 wrote:RQ, it's probably a good idea to let the coach and ref manage the game, while the parents watch and enjoy.

Good idea or not I'm not talking about doing it the whole game. I will give you an example of what I'm talking about. Dad on the sideline sees his kid crash into another kid and start limping slightly. Dad has not done anything but cheer. So he tells his kid to shake it off. He says it pretty loud and repeats it again. The ref comes up to him and tells him to be quiet or he will have to leave the game. This is for real because I was 4 ft away. That is abuse of power. The Dad told the ref he was talking to his son and then the ref said the line that should be reserved for someone questioning all his calls. Stop talking or youre out.

What gives the refs the right to talk to a parent like that?

endless abuse by the parents of that ref at every other game. they hear yelling in their direction and have no desire to put up with it. I hear parents complain about the stupidest crap and calls they have no clue on because the throw in or call went against their team. they have no idea whether the call was right but yell to yell.

so a parent yelling to his son on the field could have easily been interrupted as an attack on the ref. was the ref right in this instance, no. does he have a right to have a no nonsense approach on the issue of yelling, absolutely.

Wrong. Refs feelings should not come into play. They are the professionals correct? I mean it's the big bad parents whose feelings cause all the trouble. I have met good refs who instead of adding gas to the flame actually control the situation and treat parents with respect and and are given respect in return. What do these good refs have in common? Thick skin. There are too many thin skinned refs who worry more about what parents are saying than to make sure their ARs are doing their job.

your wrong.

ref hater.

This is long.

I think you are wrong. I am a parent and a ref. When i started to ref my boy was 5 at the time so he started to play rec. a good buddy of mine told me become a ref and enjoy the game and make extra cash. so i took the class and started to ref. i started in plano premier and moved to classic and lake highland girls. i went from grade 8 to grade 7. When i started to ref i always got upset/mad at the parents and coaches when they yelled "how do you not see the foul but you saw the other one" or "thats not a foul" when it was shoulder to shoulder which many people confuse and want fouls. wheter i had missed the call or not i got really mad. i would then look at the parent and said quiet youre here to watch the game not to ref. the first seasons (spring and fall) i ref i got to know more refs personally and had assesments. the older guys who had ref for many years here and their countries of origin would tell me you need to calm down when you are in the center or in the parents side as lineman, i asked why? bc you are taking this personally. i would said to my friends and the assesors yes but am trying to do my job and they are yelling, i understand you are but you need to block the parents bc they are here to see the game and cheer for their boys after all they are paying. imagine you being in that side. when the coach yelled at me, i would said you are here to coach not to ref, you do your job i'll do mine. i was a jerk and started to argue with them back and forth. i would said this is your first warning next one you are out. i kicked out so many coaches out and parents and once the whole bench. then one day i ref with a guy who introduced him self to the coach and shook their hands and said. "let me do my job and you do your job, i will not deal with the parents i will deal with you, if you can't calm your bench i will come up to you once and remind you that is your responsability if i have to remind you again i will kick you out. i was like WT_! i ref with him a few games then one day i was center and he was lines. during half-time he told me calm down, he said "imaging a professional game, do you think the ref is going to said to the fans be quiet or am going to kick you out or his going to tell that to the coach. i would tell him but that is different that is a progame and this is classic and lake highland girls. he said and your point is? you are here to manage the game inside the pitch, you deal with players and coaches. well... i learned from the old man. one day i had to ref a showcase in richland, i was center and guess what coach was there to me one of the biggest mouth, TATU. see he uses reverse psychology to piss you off. so he said to me after a call, "ref, i love you" and i got hot and mad and i remember the old ref and i said to him "Tatu, you are the first in my heart". He laugh and asked me what did you said i thought he was going to curse me out, but i repeated my self. i shut his mouth with kindness. he came over to me after and just shook my hand and didn't said a word and just walked away laughing. i am no in my 12th yr being a ref and i have learned a lot good and bad. i now introduce my self to the coach and talk about why we are there, "we are there for the boys & girls" not for that parent or coach who never made it and now is trying to see their self in their kids. being loud is part of the game and if you are a thin skin ref than don't ref. it's just a badge, am not saying disrepect the ref but we refs need to calm down!

urahater, that last post of mine was pure sarcasm. I see both sides and agree that neither side is correct all the time.

urahater wrote:

odie1993 wrote:

Riquelme wrote:

odie1993 wrote:

Riquelme wrote:

finish1 wrote:RQ, it's probably a good idea to let the coach and ref manage the game, while the parents watch and enjoy.

Good idea or not I'm not talking about doing it the whole game. I will give you an example of what I'm talking about. Dad on the sideline sees his kid crash into another kid and start limping slightly. Dad has not done anything but cheer. So he tells his kid to shake it off. He says it pretty loud and repeats it again. The ref comes up to him and tells him to be quiet or he will have to leave the game. This is for real because I was 4 ft away. That is abuse of power. The Dad told the ref he was talking to his son and then the ref said the line that should be reserved for someone questioning all his calls. Stop talking or youre out.

What gives the refs the right to talk to a parent like that?

endless abuse by the parents of that ref at every other game. they hear yelling in their direction and have no desire to put up with it. I hear parents complain about the stupidest crap and calls they have no clue on because the throw in or call went against their team. they have no idea whether the call was right but yell to yell.

so a parent yelling to his son on the field could have easily been interrupted as an attack on the ref. was the ref right in this instance, no. does he have a right to have a no nonsense approach on the issue of yelling, absolutely.

Wrong. Refs feelings should not come into play. They are the professionals correct? I mean it's the big bad parents whose feelings cause all the trouble. I have met good refs who instead of adding gas to the flame actually control the situation and treat parents with respect and and are given respect in return. What do these good refs have in common? Thick skin. There are too many thin skinned refs who worry more about what parents are saying than to make sure their ARs are doing their job.

your wrong.

ref hater.

This is long.

I think you are wrong. I am a parent and a ref. When i started to ref my boy was 5 at the time so he started to play rec. a good buddy of mine told me become a ref and enjoy the game and make extra cash. so i took the class and started to ref. i started in plano premier and moved to classic and lake highland girls. i went from grade 8 to grade 7. When i started to ref i always got upset/mad at the parents and coaches when they yelled "how do you not see the foul but you saw the other one" or "thats not a foul" when it was shoulder to shoulder which many people confuse and want fouls. wheter i had missed the call or not i got really mad. i would then look at the parent and said quiet youre here to watch the game not to ref. the first seasons (spring and fall) i ref i got to know more refs personally and had assesments. the older guys who had ref for many years here and their countries of origin would tell me you need to calm down when you are in the center or in the parents side as lineman, i asked why? bc you are taking this personally. i would said to my friends and the assesors yes but am trying to do my job and they are yelling, i understand you are but you need to block the parents bc they are here to see the game and cheer for their boys after all they are paying. imagine you being in that side. when the coach yelled at me, i would said you are here to coach not to ref, you do your job i'll do mine. i was a jerk and started to argue with them back and forth. i would said this is your first warning next one you are out. i kicked out so many coaches out and parents and once the whole bench. then one day i ref with a guy who introduced him self to the coach and shook their hands and said. "let me do my job and you do your job, i will not deal with the parents i will deal with you, if you can't calm your bench i will come up to you once and remind you that is your responsability if i have to remind you again i will kick you out. i was like WT_! i ref with him a few games then one day i was center and he was lines. during half-time he told me calm down, he said "imaging a professional game, do you think the ref is going to said to the fans be quiet or am going to kick you out or his going to tell that to the coach. i would tell him but that is different that is a progame and this is classic and lake highland girls. he said and your point is? you are here to manage the game inside the pitch, you deal with players and coaches. well... i learned from the old man. one day i had to ref a showcase in richland, i was center and guess what coach was there to me one of the biggest mouth, TATU. see he uses reverse psychology to piss you off. so he said to me after a call, "ref, i love you" and i got hot and mad and i remember the old ref and i said to him "Tatu, you are the first in my heart". He laugh and asked me what did you said i thought he was going to curse me out, but i repeated my self. i shut his mouth with kindness. he came over to me after and just shook my hand and didn't said a word and just walked away laughing. i am no in my 12th yr being a ref and i have learned a lot good and bad. i now introduce my self to the coach and talk about why we are there, "we are there for the boys & girls" not for that parent or coach who never made it and now is trying to see their self in their kids. being loud is part of the game and if you are a thin skin ref than don't ref. it's just a badge, am not saying disrepect the ref but we refs need to calm down!

Wow! This is the best answer from a ref I have ever read. You sound like the ref who was CR in both of my U14 kids team this past weekend at Winter Cup. Personable and had complete control of the game. I called the tourny director to get his name and I'm still waiting. I want to extend my compliments to this ref but now I extend them to you too!!!

odie1993 wrote:urahater, that last post of mine was pure sarcasm. I see both sides and agree that neither side is correct all the time.

LOL, i know it's a tough business, "why can't we all just get along".

Anybody see the Castro v FCD Premier semifinal game on Sunday? Looks like it went to a shoot out and FCD won.

donovansucks wrote:Anybody see the Castro v FCD Premier semifinal game on Sunday? Looks like it went to a shoot out and FCD won.

I saw it. Good game. Primetime managed to screw it up by putting the top two teams together in the semis. BB missed the first PK, but doing well this morning, though. Woke up bright eyed and bushy tailed. Congrats to FCD...I'm assuming they won?

Ibystander wrote:

donovansucks wrote:Anybody see the Castro v FCD Premier semifinal game on Sunday? Looks like it went to a shoot out and FCD won.

I saw it. Good game. Primetime managed to screw it up by putting the top two teams together in the semis. BB missed the first PK, but doing well this morning, though. Woke up bright eyed and bushy tailed. Congrats to FCD...I'm assuming they won?

Was a great game. Kids are playing high level soccer. Very even match and for what I saw, the FCD had more opportunities to score during regular time. So, in this case, penalties round were fair. Both teams deserve to win, but that is not possible. Congrats FCD and Solar.

urahater wrote:

odie1993 wrote:

Riquelme wrote:

odie1993 wrote:

Riquelme wrote:

finish1 wrote:RQ, it's probably a good idea to let the coach and ref manage the game, while the parents watch and enjoy.

Good idea or not I'm not talking about doing it the whole game. I will give you an example of what I'm talking about. Dad on the sideline sees his kid crash into another kid and start limping slightly. Dad has not done anything but cheer. So he tells his kid to shake it off. He says it pretty loud and repeats it again. The ref comes up to him and tells him to be quiet or he will have to leave the game. This is for real because I was 4 ft away. That is abuse of power. The Dad told the ref he was talking to his son and then the ref said the line that should be reserved for someone questioning all his calls. Stop talking or youre out.

What gives the refs the right to talk to a parent like that?

endless abuse by the parents of that ref at every other game. they hear yelling in their direction and have no desire to put up with it. I hear parents complain about the stupidest crap and calls they have no clue on because the throw in or call went against their team. they have no idea whether the call was right but yell to yell.

so a parent yelling to his son on the field could have easily been interrupted as an attack on the ref. was the ref right in this instance, no. does he have a right to have a no nonsense approach on the issue of yelling, absolutely.

Wrong. Refs feelings should not come into play. They are the professionals correct? I mean it's the big bad parents whose feelings cause all the trouble. I have met good refs who instead of adding gas to the flame actually control the situation and treat parents with respect and and are given respect in return. What do these good refs have in common? Thick skin. There are too many thin skinned refs who worry more about what parents are saying than to make sure their ARs are doing their job.

your wrong.

ref hater.

This is long.

I think you are wrong. I am a parent and a ref. When i started to ref my boy was 5 at the time so he started to play rec. a good buddy of mine told me become a ref and enjoy the game and make extra cash. so i took the class and started to ref. i started in plano premier and moved to classic and lake highland girls. i went from grade 8 to grade 7. When i started to ref i always got upset/mad at the parents and coaches when they yelled "how do you not see the foul but you saw the other one" or "thats not a foul" when it was shoulder to shoulder which many people confuse and want fouls. wheter i had missed the call or not i got really mad. i would then look at the parent and said quiet youre here to watch the game not to ref. the first seasons (spring and fall) i ref i got to know more refs personally and had assesments. the older guys who had ref for many years here and their countries of origin would tell me you need to calm down when you are in the center or in the parents side as lineman, i asked why? bc you are taking this personally. i would said to my friends and the assesors yes but am trying to do my job and they are yelling, i understand you are but you need to block the parents bc they are here to see the game and cheer for their boys after all they are paying. imagine you being in that side. when the coach yelled at me, i would said you are here to coach not to ref, you do your job i'll do mine. i was a jerk and started to argue with them back and forth. i would said this is your first warning next one you are out. i kicked out so many coaches out and parents and once the whole bench. then one day i ref with a guy who introduced him self to the coach and shook their hands and said. "let me do my job and you do your job, i will not deal with the parents i will deal with you, if you can't calm your bench i will come up to you once and remind you that is your responsability if i have to remind you again i will kick you out. i was like WT_! i ref with him a few games then one day i was center and he was lines. during half-time he told me calm down, he said "imaging a professional game, do you think the ref is going to said to the fans be quiet or am going to kick you out or his going to tell that to the coach. i would tell him but that is different that is a progame and this is classic and lake highland girls. he said and your point is? you are here to manage the game inside the pitch, you deal with players and coaches. well... i learned from the old man. one day i had to ref a showcase in richland, i was center and guess what coach was there to me one of the biggest mouth, TATU. see he uses reverse psychology to piss you off. so he said to me after a call, "ref, i love you" and i got hot and mad and i remember the old ref and i said to him "Tatu, you are the first in my heart". He laugh and asked me what did you said i thought he was going to curse me out, but i repeated my self. i shut his mouth with kindness. he came over to me after and just shook my hand and didn't said a word and just walked away laughing. i am no in my 12th yr being a ref and i have learned a lot good and bad. i now introduce my self to the coach and talk about why we are there, "we are there for the boys & girls" not for that parent or coach who never made it and now is trying to see their self in their kids. being loud is part of the game and if you are a thin skin ref than don't ref. it's just a badge, am not saying disrepect the ref but we refs need to calm down!

Would you mind if I posted this to the girls forum? I would have to agree it is the best response and viewpoint I have ever read from a ref.

good4nuthin wrote:

urahater wrote:

odie1993 wrote:

Riquelme wrote:

odie1993 wrote:

Riquelme wrote:

finish1 wrote:RQ, it's probably a good idea to let the coach and ref manage the game, while the parents watch and enjoy.

Good idea or not I'm not talking about doing it the whole game. I will give you an example of what I'm talking about. Dad on the sideline sees his kid crash into another kid and start limping slightly. Dad has not done anything but cheer. So he tells his kid to shake it off. He says it pretty loud and repeats it again. The ref comes up to him and tells him to be quiet or he will have to leave the game. This is for real because I was 4 ft away. That is abuse of power. The Dad told the ref he was talking to his son and then the ref said the line that should be reserved for someone questioning all his calls. Stop talking or youre out.

What gives the refs the right to talk to a parent like that?

endless abuse by the parents of that ref at every other game. they hear yelling in their direction and have no desire to put up with it. I hear parents complain about the stupidest crap and calls they have no clue on because the throw in or call went against their team. they have no idea whether the call was right but yell to yell.

so a parent yelling to his son on the field could have easily been interrupted as an attack on the ref. was the ref right in this instance, no. does he have a right to have a no nonsense approach on the issue of yelling, absolutely.

Wrong. Refs feelings should not come into play. They are the professionals correct? I mean it's the big bad parents whose feelings cause all the trouble. I have met good refs who instead of adding gas to the flame actually control the situation and treat parents with respect and and are given respect in return. What do these good refs have in common? Thick skin. There are too many thin skinned refs who worry more about what parents are saying than to make sure their ARs are doing their job.

your wrong.

ref hater.

This is long.

I think you are wrong. I am a parent and a ref. When i started to ref my boy was 5 at the time so he started to play rec. a good buddy of mine told me become a ref and enjoy the game and make extra cash. so i took the class and started to ref. i started in plano premier and moved to classic and lake highland girls. i went from grade 8 to grade 7. When i started to ref i always got upset/mad at the parents and coaches when they yelled "how do you not see the foul but you saw the other one" or "thats not a foul" when it was shoulder to shoulder which many people confuse and want fouls. wheter i had missed the call or not i got really mad. i would then look at the parent and said quiet youre here to watch the game not to ref. the first seasons (spring and fall) i ref i got to know more refs personally and had assesments. the older guys who had ref for many years here and their countries of origin would tell me you need to calm down when you are in the center or in the parents side as lineman, i asked why? bc you are taking this personally. i would said to my friends and the assesors yes but am trying to do my job and they are yelling, i understand you are but you need to block the parents bc they are here to see the game and cheer for their boys after all they are paying. imagine you being in that side. when the coach yelled at me, i would said you are here to coach not to ref, you do your job i'll do mine. i was a jerk and started to argue with them back and forth. i would said this is your first warning next one you are out. i kicked out so many coaches out and parents and once the whole bench. then one day i ref with a guy who introduced him self to the coach and shook their hands and said. "let me do my job and you do your job, i will not deal with the parents i will deal with you, if you can't calm your bench i will come up to you once and remind you that is your responsability if i have to remind you again i will kick you out. i was like WT_! i ref with him a few games then one day i was center and he was lines. during half-time he told me calm down, he said "imaging a professional game, do you think the ref is going to said to the fans be quiet or am going to kick you out or his going to tell that to the coach. i would tell him but that is different that is a progame and this is classic and lake highland girls. he said and your point is? you are here to manage the game inside the pitch, you deal with players and coaches. well... i learned from the old man. one day i had to ref a showcase in richland, i was center and guess what coach was there to me one of the biggest mouth, TATU. see he uses reverse psychology to piss you off. so he said to me after a call, "ref, i love you" and i got hot and mad and i remember the old ref and i said to him "Tatu, you are the first in my heart". He laugh and asked me what did you said i thought he was going to curse me out, but i repeated my self. i shut his mouth with kindness. he came over to me after and just shook my hand and didn't said a word and just walked away laughing. i am no in my 12th yr being a ref and i have learned a lot good and bad. i now introduce my self to the coach and talk about why we are there, "we are there for the boys & girls" not for that parent or coach who never made it and now is trying to see their self in their kids. being loud is part of the game and if you are a thin skin ref than don't ref. it's just a badge, am not saying disrepect the ref but we refs need to calm down!

Would you mind if I posted this to the girls forum? I would have to agree it is the best response and viewpoint I have ever read from a ref.

NP.