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Post by Tequilapark 2/28/2010, 2:57 pm

FCD 0 - Solar 0, FCD is now in 2nd place
FCDB 1 - TR 1
FCDG 3 - SR 0?
DTRS 2 - Andro 1

Anyone know the Tejanos - DTRW result?
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Post by 97keepermom 2/28/2010, 3:25 pm

Tequilapark wrote:FCD 0 - Solar 0, FCD is now in 2nd place
FCDB 1 - TR 1
FCDG 3 - SR 0?
DTRS 2 - Andro 1

Anyone know the Tejanos - DTRW result?
No question on the FCDG & SR score. It was 3-0. Both teams played very hard.
I heard that the Tejanos-DTRW game was 1-1.
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Post by randee42 2/28/2010, 4:53 pm

FIGHT - FIGHT -FIGHT
FCDE 3 - Tigres 2

2 red cards on Tigres, 1 was for a boy punching the FC Dallas keeper in the chin in the 2nd half. Tigres played dirty all the game and the ref let it get a bit out of control. After the 2nd red and fight, I think every Field Marshall and Classic League official was at the game.

Tigre player that did get the last red card did tell one of our boys he was just going to switch numbers and play next week. Classy...
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Post by mrclean 2/28/2010, 5:01 pm

Somebody should ask one of those players where he was on the day he was born.

If he just looks old for his age, my apologies. Still the question should be asked. If he says he was being born, then I'm okay with that.
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Post by mrclean 2/28/2010, 7:08 pm

Just got a message that their big guy is in the right age bracket. My apologies.
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Post by Tequilapark 3/1/2010, 10:29 am

Nice to see the Tejanos got one point finally, it has been a long year for them.

I still believe they will win a game in D1 before going back to D2 next season, they have 5 more opportunities.
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Post by randee42 3/1/2010, 2:50 pm

mrclean wrote:Just got a message that their big guy is in the right age bracket. My apologies.

He might be in the right age bracket but he is pretty large, rivals my boy in size. Sad thing is, he is not going to see any action for 2 games since he and the other carded play got 2 games suspension from classic league.
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Post by Tequilapark 3/1/2010, 3:08 pm

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mrclean wrote:Just got a message that their big guy is in the right age bracket. My apologies.

He might be in the right age bracket but he is pretty large, rivals my boy in size. Sad thing is, he is not going to see any action for 2 games since he and the other carded play got 2 games suspension from classic league.
Boca / FCD Central / Tigres, they were one of the top teams before QT 3 years ago, played D1, now in D2, may go to D3 next season.

And for years their players have had problems with cards, I know its not the same players since many have moved on, but what is the problem? coaching? parents? kids?
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Post by The German 3/1/2010, 3:57 pm

Tequilapark wrote:
randee42 wrote:
mrclean wrote:Just got a message that their big guy is in the right age bracket. My apologies.

He might be in the right age bracket but he is pretty large, rivals my boy in size. Sad thing is, he is not going to see any action for 2 games since he and the other carded play got 2 games suspension from classic league.
Boca / FCD Central / Tigres, they were one of the top teams before QT 3 years ago, played D1, now in D2, may go to D3 next season.

And for years their players have had problems with cards, I know its not the same players since many have moved on, but what is the problem? coaching? parents? kids?
If the kids changed I guess the parents changed too, the club changed a few times so the only constant is the coach and I heard even he changed this spring.
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Post by randee42 3/1/2010, 4:22 pm

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mrclean wrote:Just got a message that their big guy is in the right age bracket. My apologies.

He might be in the right age bracket but he is pretty large, rivals my boy in size. Sad thing is, he is not going to see any action for 2 games since he and the other carded play got 2 games suspension from classic league.
Boca / FCD Central / Tigres, they were one of the top teams before QT 3 years ago, played D1, now in D2, may go to D3 next season.

And for years their players have had problems with cards, I know its not the same players since many have moved on, but what is the problem? coaching? parents? kids?
If the kids changed I guess the parents changed too, the club changed a few times so the only constant is the coach and I heard even he changed this spring.

Blame it on their heritage and them being Mexican... (Just kidding - I am Mexican). But honestly, if it is the whole team and coach and they are always that way, maybe it is being taught or learned from the culture of the club from the coaching down. I am not sure why they are that way but they are indeed 12/13 year old boys that need discipline at both and home. If they are not getting that type of discipline at home or on the field, then it may be the reason the problem exists. I do wish them the best, I do not like ever playing a team that is not 100% because it gives them an excuse on why they lost.

I still would want both boys that got kicked out on my team for skill alone. If someone could coach their attitude/behavior, both boys would be valuable to any team.
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Post by Tequilapark 3/1/2010, 5:07 pm

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Tequilapark wrote:
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mrclean wrote:Just got a message that their big guy is in the right age bracket. My apologies.

He might be in the right age bracket but he is pretty large, rivals my boy in size. Sad thing is, he is not going to see any action for 2 games since he and the other carded play got 2 games suspension from classic league.
Boca / FCD Central / Tigres, they were one of the top teams before QT 3 years ago, played D1, now in D2, may go to D3 next season.

And for years their players have had problems with cards, I know its not the same players since many have moved on, but what is the problem? coaching? parents? kids?
If the kids changed I guess the parents changed too, the club changed a few times so the only constant is the coach and I heard even he changed this spring.

Blame it on their heritage and them being Mexican... (Just kidding - I am Mexican). But honestly, if it is the whole team and coach and they are always that way, maybe it is being taught or learned from the culture of the club from the coaching down. I am not sure why they are that way but they are indeed 12/13 year old boys that need discipline at both and home. If they are not getting that type of discipline at home or on the field, then it may be the reason the problem exists. I do wish them the best, I do not like ever playing a team that is not 100% because it gives them an excuse on why they lost.

I still would want both boys that got kicked out on my team for skill alone. If someone could coach their attitude/behavior, both boys would be valuable to any team.

Something is definetly wrong.

There are hispanic players on almost all if not every team in classic, but the card problems seem to be consistent in this one team. So its not the heritage I agree.

This discussion has been in the forums several times over the past 3 or 4 years, unfortunate.
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Post by PEEWEE 3/1/2010, 6:43 pm

Tigres also played dirty on Saturday they received 2 yellow cards one was for pushing in the back after the player took a swing at a player and missed

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Post by plantit 3/1/2010, 7:06 pm

Invitation only league. There are other teams willing to accept the invite so show some stones C/L
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Post by randee42 3/2/2010, 9:23 am

PEEWEE wrote:Tigres also played dirty on Saturday they received 2 yellow cards one was for pushing in the back after the player took a swing at a player and missed

I wonder if the same kid that swung and missed is the same kid that clocked my kid. Was it a red card for trying to fight or just a yellow card since he missed?
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Post by OnTheSurface 3/2/2010, 12:14 pm

There are a handful of teams that play dirty and have always played dirty. Purposeful fouls whose sole intent is to take out a kid and hopefully sideline him for the game or longer.

I watched a certain U13 game this season where both teams started the game playing normal, typically aggressive D1 play. When it became evident that the referee was not going to call anything, one team cranked up the aggressive by about 10 notches. Elbows, tripping, shirt grabbing, back pushing, the whole cookie. Do you think the boys just decided to start doing that all on their own? I very much tend to doubt it. Especially when I saw this coach talking to the boys on the sideline and point out specific kids, whom I can only believe he was telling his players what kids needed to be taken out next. Indeed, one boy on the opposing team was fouled badly and was out for the rest of the game. He was one of the teams better players and it definitely affected the outcome of the game.

With little exception, kids don't play poorly of their own volition. They are taught/told to do it. At least in my rosy-glassed opinion.
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Post by ALSC_7 3/2/2010, 2:41 pm

Unfortunately, my BB experienced first hand the "take out a kid and hopefully sideline him for the the game or longer" mentality in an Arlington game this weekend. We were up 3-1 and my BB was fed a nice through ball that he ran onto. He had the last defenter beat by about a yard and was pulling away. As he got into the 18, the last defender knowing that he was beat, lunged feet first from directly behind and took took him out. The defender received a straight red but his tactic was successful since we missed the ensuing PK. We went on to win 6-1. Unfortunately, my BB received a fractured ankle as a result of this "nice" tactic. Hopefully, he can come back and play the final week of the season. Evil or Very Mad


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Post by mrclean 3/2/2010, 5:50 pm

"On the Surface"

I agree with you 100%. Sometimes the cheap play isn't taught but it gets praised in the end. We all (including myself) need to keep our cool in games. There is never a reason for a payback foul. First, the payback foul usually happens to a player that wasn't even involved in the cheap play. Secondly, it promotes a spirit that if unchecked may cause them to spend time behind bars when they are older. You just can't "whop" everyone that makes you angry.

I have tried to raise tough boys and sometimes that causes them to make poor choices in the heat of the game. The bottom line is that the kids, parents, and coaches need to respect the game. It's a players game and the players have to make sure it's about soccer or they need to quit if they can't lose without getting mad.
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Post by PEEWEE 3/2/2010, 6:09 pm

He only received a yellow card but should have been a red card but the ref to me was watching him closely after that. The boy he swung at first was tripped by him in a dirty slide tackle right before that, then took a swing at him and barely missed then shoved him in the back luckily a player on the team pulled the player being attacked away before he got to angry (good for him) but the ref let it go to far or maybe didn't see the dirty slide tackle before the punch???? Who knows giving the ref the benefit of the doubt but several things took place before all this did so it already seemed to be getting pretty heated by that point

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Post by plantit 3/2/2010, 6:45 pm

OnTheSurface wrote:There are a handful of teams that play dirty and have always played dirty. Purposeful fouls whose sole intent is to take out a kid and hopefully sideline him for the game or longer.

I watched a certain U13 game this season where both teams started the game playing normal, typically aggressive D1 play. When it became evident that the referee was not going to call anything, one team cranked up the aggressive by about 10 notches. Elbows, tripping, shirt grabbing, back pushing, the whole cookie. Do you think the boys just decided to start doing that all on their own? I very much tend to doubt it. Especially when I saw this coach talking to the boys on the sideline and point out specific kids, whom I can only believe he was telling his players what kids needed to be taken out next. Indeed, one boy on the opposing team was fouled badly and was out for the rest of the game. He was one of the teams better players and it definitely affected the outcome of the game.

With little exception, kids don't play poorly of their own volition. They are taught/told to do it. At least in my rosy-glassed opinion.
Think I know of the game you speak of . One team played soccer the other football .Would? said, team have HN attached. Asked the ref at the end if he enjoyed the game ,Only reinforceing the pathetic style of play . Typical NTX soccer. Refs alot of times just reinforce ugly play by swallowing their whistle. Think in that game fouls were about 3to1.
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