Dalas Cup/ Adidas UEFA Champions Tournament

Real Barcelona wrote:Who is SF?

dd1 wrote:Don't mind free trip to Portugal or wherever. Don't mind gold medal or a big trophy or whatever or chance to play for the world team or whatever.
DO mind getting into DC SF. Absolute disgrace and insult to all that got in following the rules!

Real Barcelona wrote:Who is SF?

Real Barcelona wrote:My predictions are that some games will be lopsided and boring.

Laroja_2012 wrote:Honestly, I did not expect the teams to be almost exclusively from NTX. Anyway, the free trip to Portugal at this point is not so important as there are for sure many talented kids who play in those teams. But the problem here is that the quality of most of these teams as a whole is questionable. One talented player that could easily be selected for the trip can't make a big difference as these teams have been defeated locally by the teams who qualified to the DC. And I don't see from where they could add a player who could make the difference from their regular season.

GoldenGoal wrote:I think when it comes down to it most people could get past this if it was just another qualifying tounament because some of the teams are good. But it's not. Not only does it get u in, u don't even have to play ur way out of a pool (which in Dallas cup is a major task/accomplishment in itself), then u magically just skip the quarterfinals and land in the semi-finals. I think that is what rubs people the wrong way the most or at least that's what bugs me the most.

soccerdadrandy wrote:

Laroja_2012 wrote:Honestly, I did not expect the teams to be almost exclusively from NTX. Anyway, the free trip to Portugal at this point is not so important as there are for sure many talented kids who play in those teams. But the problem here is that the quality of most of these teams as a whole is questionable. One talented player that could easily be selected for the trip can't make a big difference as these teams have been defeated locally by the teams who qualified to the DC. And I don't see from where they could add a player who could make the difference from their regular season.

top classic d3 and d2 teams are in. wizards won 2 games in cancelled fall festival against teams in DC. solar and tejanos are solid d1 teams

meandsoccer wrote:

soccerdadrandy wrote:

Laroja_2012 wrote:Honestly, I did not expect the teams to be almost exclusively from NTX. Anyway, the free trip to Portugal at this point is not so important as there are for sure many talented kids who play in those teams. But the problem here is that the quality of most of these teams as a whole is questionable. One talented player that could easily be selected for the trip can't make a big difference as these teams have been defeated locally by the teams who qualified to the DC. And I don't see from where they could add a player who could make the difference from their regular season.

top classic d3 and d2 teams are in. wizards won 2 games in cancelled fall festival against teams in DC. solar and tejanos are solid d1 teams

I did not see any classic D3 teams , the Samba NexGen is a madeup team and has no record (mainly of Samba Gold from D3)
I donnot see why they would allow a team like samba nextgen if there are higher ranking teams with proven rankings/record
This NextGen is a group attempting to be like ODP but hasnt seen any success ... They should have just invited SambaFC00B the actual D3 team  instead of this team that has players from other teams ( LookINtoit )..
Wizards looks like the team to beat   

soccerdadrandy wrote:

GoldenGoal wrote:I think when it comes down to it most people could get past this if it was just another qualifying tounament because some of the teams are good. But it's not. Not only does it get u in, u don't even have to play ur way out of a pool (which in Dallas cup is a major task/accomplishment in itself), then u magically just skip the quarterfinals and land in the semi-finals. I think that is what rubs people the wrong way the most or at least that's what bugs me the most.

so you would rather try to find ONE wildcard out of SIX brackets to play in semi's. i like the creative twist, personally. like i said earlier, the wizards deserve to be in dallas cup. it would not surprise me if one of these teams won the semi final game in DC.

Se_la_perdio! wrote:

soccerdadrandy wrote:

GoldenGoal wrote:I think when it comes down to it most people could get past this if it was just another qualifying tounament because some of the teams are good. But it's not. Not only does it get u in, u don't even have to play ur way out of a pool (which in Dallas cup is a major task/accomplishment in itself), then u magically just skip the quarterfinals and land in the semi-finals. I think that is what rubs people the wrong way the most or at least that's what bugs me the most.

so you would rather try to find ONE wildcard out of SIX brackets to play in semi's. i like the creative twist, personally. like i said earlier, the wizards deserve to be in dallas cup. it would not surprise me if one of these teams won the semi final game in DC.

very simply put yes.  

i would rather see two wildcards come out of these brackets than any of the teams in this little tournament.

bracket a - fcd premier or angeles
bracket b - mana or san diego surf
bracket c - fc golden state or sunrise elite
bracket f - fcd east or arkansas comets

four good teams won't get a chance to advance because of this tournament with inferior competition.

meandsoccer wrote:

soccerdadrandy wrote:

Laroja_2012 wrote:Honestly, I did not expect the teams to be almost exclusively from NTX. Anyway, the free trip to Portugal at this point is not so important as there are for sure many talented kids who play in those teams. But the problem here is that the quality of most of these teams as a whole is questionable. One talented player that could easily be selected for the trip can't make a big difference as these teams have been defeated locally by the teams who qualified to the DC. And I don't see from where they could add a player who could make the difference from their regular season.

top classic d3 and d2 teams are in. wizards won 2 games in cancelled fall festival against teams in DC. solar and tejanos are solid d1 teams

I did not see any classic D3 teams , the Samba NexGen is a madeup team and has no record (mainly of Samba Gold from D3)
I donnot see why they would allow a team like samba nextgen if there are higher ranking teams with proven rankings/record
This NextGen is a group attempting to be like ODP but hasnt seen any success ... They should have just invited SambaFC00B the actual D3 team  instead of this team that has players from other teams ( LookINtoit )..
Wizards looks like the team to beat   

meandsoccer wrote:

Se_la_perdio! wrote:

soccerdadrandy wrote:

GoldenGoal wrote:I think when it comes down to it most people could get past this if it was just another qualifying tounament because some of the teams are good. But it's not. Not only does it get u in, u don't even have to play ur way out of a pool (which in Dallas cup is a major task/accomplishment in itself), then u magically just skip the quarterfinals and land in the semi-finals. I think that is what rubs people the wrong way the most or at least that's what bugs me the most.

so you would rather try to find ONE wildcard out of SIX brackets to play in semi's. i like the creative twist, personally. like i said earlier, the wizards deserve to be in dallas cup. it would not surprise me if one of these teams won the semi final game in DC.

very simply put yes.  

i would rather see two wildcards come out of these brackets than any of the teams in this little tournament.

bracket a - fcd premier or angeles
bracket b - mana or san diego surf
bracket c - fc golden state or sunrise elite
bracket f - fcd east or arkansas comets

four good teams won't get a chance to advance because of this tournament with inferior competition.

What if one of these "inferior" teams went off and pulled one out there (rear end) .. and actually competed and went to DC Semi's and then !! WON IT ALL !! Just like in the movies
Would there be tears of joy, tears of saddness or tears from anger  

Se_la_perdio! wrote:

soccerdadrandy wrote:

GoldenGoal wrote:I think when it comes down to it most people could get past this if it was just another qualifying tounament because some of the teams are good. But it's not. Not only does it get u in, u don't even have to play ur way out of a pool (which in Dallas cup is a major task/accomplishment in itself), then u magically just skip the quarterfinals and land in the semi-finals. I think that is what rubs people the wrong way the most or at least that's what bugs me the most.

so you would rather try to find ONE wildcard out of SIX brackets to play in semi's. i like the creative twist, personally. like i said earlier, the wizards deserve to be in dallas cup. it would not surprise me if one of these teams won the semi final game in DC.

very simply put yes.  

i would rather see two wildcards come out of these brackets than any of the teams in this little tournament.

bracket a - fcd premier or angeles
bracket b - mana or san diego surf
bracket c - fc golden state or sunrise elite
bracket f - fcd east or arkansas comets

four good teams won't get a chance to advance because of this tournament with inferior competition.

soccerdadrandy wrote:

meandsoccer wrote:

soccerdadrandy wrote:

Laroja_2012 wrote:Honestly, I did not expect the teams to be almost exclusively from NTX. Anyway, the free trip to Portugal at this point is not so important as there are for sure many talented kids who play in those teams. But the problem here is that the quality of most of these teams as a whole is questionable. One talented player that could easily be selected for the trip can't make a big difference as these teams have been defeated locally by the teams who qualified to the DC. And I don't see from where they could add a player who could make the difference from their regular season.

top classic d3 and d2 teams are in. wizards won 2 games in cancelled fall festival against teams in DC. solar and tejanos are solid d1 teams

I did not see any classic D3 teams , the Samba NexGen is a madeup team and has no record (mainly of Samba Gold from D3)
I donnot see why they would allow a team like samba nextgen if there are higher ranking teams with proven rankings/record
This NextGen is a group attempting to be like ODP but hasnt seen any success ... They should have just invited SambaFC00B the actual D3 team  instead of this team that has players from other teams ( LookINtoit )..
Wizards looks like the team to beat   

kernow storm 1st place d3. what locals don't understand is international teams that come to DC are MUCH MORE LIKE SAMBA NEXGEN than our classic league teams. NEXGEN is only diff than academy, in that they have some 99's on the roster like every other U14 team in the tournament. the u13 academy's are the only teams without 99 players.

Laroja_2012 wrote:I agree, this is a joke! Two out of town teams, one from STX, the other from SCA! Then, they had to scrape the bottom of the barrel among the local teams to put together other 10 teams. Very unfair to those teams who will be left out at an early stage of the DC. DC teams will have to win their bracket to qualify for only 3 quarter finals matches.

Se_la_perdio! wrote:

Laroja_2012 wrote:I agree, this is a joke! Two out of town teams, one from STX, the other from SCA! Then, they had to scrape the bottom of the barrel among the local teams to put together other 10 teams. Very unfair to those teams who will be left out at an early stage of the DC. DC teams will have to win their bracket to qualify for only 3 quarter finals matches.

it sucks for the second place teams from brackets a, b, c & f.  i think any of the teams that will end up in second place from these brackets might be more deserving than any of the ntx teams in this bs tournament.  

i normally support all ntx teams but this time i hope gunners or cvsc make it through.  i would not want to see a ntx team from this tournament playing in the dc semi finals while the ntx teams from dc the sit at home watching because they played tougher competition.    

nothing against any of the ntx teams just the system.

Se_la_perdio! wrote: i think any of the teams that will end up in second place from these brackets might be more deserving than any of the ntx teams in this bs tournament.  

earbucket wrote:

Se_la_perdio! wrote: i think any of the teams that will end up in second place from these brackets might be more deserving than any of the ntx teams in this bs tournament.  

No might about it since the NTX teams in the Adidas Tournament did not qualify for Dallas Cup.  The experience of hosting kids may be a pain in the neck, but once it's looked back upon it will a great memory.

Laroja_2012 wrote:

earbucket wrote:

Se_la_perdio! wrote: i think any of the teams that will end up in second place from these brackets might be more deserving than any of the ntx teams in this bs tournament.  

No might about it since the NTX teams in the Adidas Tournament did not qualify for Dallas Cup.  The experience of hosting kids may be a pain in the neck, but once it's looked back upon it will a great memory.

oh, I am sure it will be a great memory and with time we will forget that we had to drive the kids up and down I35 in rush hours just to get them to their games or to the coaches' hotel. Too bad that we may be sitting home instead of watching our team play in the quarter finals while another local team may get an easy ride to the semi-finals in a much less competitive tournament!

Se_la_perdio! wrote:

Laroja_2012 wrote:I agree, this is a joke! Two out of town teams, one from STX, the other from SCA! Then, they had to scrape the bottom of the barrel among the local teams to put together other 10 teams. Very unfair to those teams who will be left out at an early stage of the DC. DC teams will have to win their bracket to qualify for only 3 quarter finals matches.

it sucks for the second place teams from brackets a, b, c & f.  i think any of the teams that will end up in second place from these brackets might be more deserving than any of the ntx teams in this bs tournament.  

i normally support all ntx teams but this time i hope gunners or cvsc make it through.  i would not want to see a ntx team from this tournament playing in the dc semi finals while the ntx teams from dc the sit at home watching because they played tougher competition.    

nothing against any of the ntx teams just the system.

Se_la_perdio! wrote:

Laroja_2012 wrote:I agree, this is a joke! Two out of town teams, one from STX, the other from SCA! Then, they had to scrape the bottom of the barrel among the local teams to put together other 10 teams. Very unfair to those teams who will be left out at an early stage of the DC. DC teams will have to win their bracket to qualify for only 3 quarter finals matches.

it sucks for the second place teams from brackets a, b, c & f.  i think any of the teams that will end up in second place from these brackets might be more deserving than any of the ntx teams in this bs tournament.  

i normally support all ntx teams but this time i hope gunners or cvsc make it through.  i would not want to see a ntx team from this tournament playing in the dc semi finals while the ntx teams from dc the sit at home watching because they played tougher competition.    

nothing against any of the ntx teams just the system.

soccerdadrandy wrote:

there are some DC worthy teams in YC tourney. i do agree it is overall an easier path to semi's but i suspect that the team coming out of YC can win there semi final game. IF in hindsight TWO WILCARDS could have been FAIRLY DETERMINED to advance, i will agree that that would have been best course to take. i suspect it would not be so obvious or fair to select 2 pilchards from 6 brackets