Top 2001 Teams after the first few games

Is it the TEXANS???

If I had to bet, I would say Texans will have the top team by QT just by sheer numbers available to choose from. But from what I have seen they do not dominate the way the 99 and 00 Pomykal teams did at the same point pre-select. Maybe it is just because the top team was more settled a year out than it is this time around. Would still like to hear who the coach will be, too. I would think that would matter to some.

stk1 wrote:Is it the TEXANS???

If I had to bet, I would say Texans will have the top team by QT just by sheer numbers available to choose from. But from what I have seen they do not dominate the way the 99 and 00 Pomykal teams did at the same point pre-select. Maybe it is just because the top team was more settled a year out than it is this time around. Would still like to hear who the coach will be, too. I would think that would matter to some.

Scott was at the last DT Densk game v Andro if that means anything.

scrdad wrote:

stk1 wrote:Is it the TEXANS???

If I had to bet, I would say Texans will have the top team by QT just by sheer numbers available to choose from. But from what I have seen they do not dominate the way the 99 and 00 Pomykal teams did at the same point pre-select. Maybe it is just because the top team was more settled a year out than it is this time around. Would still like to hear who the coach will be, too. I would think that would matter to some.

Scott was at the last DT Densk game v Andro if that means anything.

It does, and I think he will be the best option for the 01s.

Not sure why Scott was at the game this last wkend. Maybe someone else could end the coach after spring. Maybe not. Lots of rumors out there that no one is talking about, come on all, someone just say it. its killin me. Its a good one.

BTW, the top team should end up being be the Densk 01 team but its not because of the "sheer numbers" but more of the talent the kids have. Solar Partain and Solar Red hv numbers, Ando has numbers, FCD has numbers too. All extremely good clubs. But fact is DT Densk again when they have ONLY their players w/o any from any other team cannot be handled. For the most part DT Densk doesnt use players from another team but on 1 rare occasion it happened and guess what? 0-1 loss to a team that they had previously beat I believe 3-1 in an earlier tourney. After that win vs Partain 3-4 players came over and then left after only making Densk's 2nd team.

trblmkr wrote:Not sure why Scott was at the game this last wkend. Maybe someone else could end the coach after spring. Maybe not. Lots of rumors out there that no one is talking about, come on all, someone just say it. its killin me. Its a good one.

BTW, the top team should end up being be the Densk 01 team but its not because of the "sheer numbers" but more of the talent the kids have. Solar Partain and Solar Red hv numbers, Ando has numbers, FCD has numbers too. All extremely good clubs. But fact is DT Densk again when they have ONLY their players w/o any from any other team cannot be handled. For the most part DT Densk doesnt use players from another team but on 1 rare occasion it happened and guess what? 0-1 loss to a team that they had previously beat I believe 3-1 in an earlier tourney. After that win vs Partain 3-4 players came over and then left after only making Densk's 2nd team.

So you are saying that Partain's team beat Densk's team with Densk's 2nd team players? That's kinda embarrassing.

trblmkr wrote:Not sure why Scott was at the game this last wkend. Maybe someone else could end the coach after spring. Maybe not. Lots of rumors out there that no one is talking about, come on all, someone just say it. its killin me. Its a good one.

What -- is Marcio coming back to the Texans? LOL
Although his Andro bio does say, "Dallas Texans Soccer Club 1995–2005; 2007–Present"!

Sorry bout that. To be clear there were 2-3 players for sure that normally would not be out there on that Densk top team. And with that being said come end (or poss even maybe beginning)of Spring '11 Those few that played vs Partain will not even be rostered at all on that team. Not embarrassing just plain ole truth.

Right now Andro is a great team but honestly I do not think they are going to keep the most talented players at least no all of them. I know some already have offers from other teams.We'll see if Bazan can keep the team together.

Any offers on the coaches taken their respective teams next yr into select. No not ML as alot of people wish for the Texans. Maybe he and HN will kiss and make up again... Idoubt it.

Another note I noticed that DT Densk does not play SR and DTS and I do hope both teams end up registering for the DT Fall Festival. It will be alot of fun. Spread the word

trblmkr wrote:Sorry bout that. To be clear there were 2-3 players for sure that normally would not be out there on that Densk top team. And with that being said come end (or poss even maybe beginning)of Spring '11 Those few that played vs Partain will not even be rostered at all on that team. Not embarrassing just plain ole truth.

Pretty confident poster. I don't see that much seperation between the top 6 or so teams right now in tournament or sdl. The spring season when the top teams start solidifying their rosters should be a good place to figure it all out.

trblmkr wrote:Sorry bout that. To be clear there were 2-3 players for sure that normally would not be out there on that Densk top team. And with that being said come end (or poss even maybe beginning)of Spring '11 Those few that played vs Partain will not even be rostered at all on that team. Not embarrassing just plain ole truth.

More than likely every top team right now has 2-3 kids on their roster that will not even be rostered at all on that team. Good players on weaker teams will look to upgrade, as will those top teams.

Dt Densk does not play DTS in sdl, though they played 3-4 weeks ago in Texans friendlies tourney. It was the only "game" for either team. Densk won someting like 5-6 to 0 I think. They have played each other a couple other times this summer with a draw and Densk win. Densk does not play SR in SDL this season. They are a team that his given Densk fits in the past, but Premier and Ando have clearly been the best teams that DT Densk has faced, including loss to Partain. Premier and Andro have a mature style of play, have superb individual ball skills (again superior to the others in my opinion), and are smart. The comment I made previously about ML was not to suggest a return to DT. It was a question to see if he gets the top 01 Andro team next year as I know of several players who left other clubs to potentially play with Marcio. It will also be interesting, as a poster hinted at Andro movement, who goes back to Jon Waters or to their other clubs. Bazan has asked that the 01 boys not play on multiple clubs from this point out. As for the DT v Partain match, the score didn't reflect play. Not sure that having a couple second teamers up hurt, as I think the whole DT team played slow. Partain has some good athletes.

mplsnsg wrote:Dt Densk does not play DTS in sdl, though they played 3-4 weeks ago in Texans friendlies tourney. It was the only "game" for either team. Densk won someting like 5-6 to 0 I think. They have played each other a couple other times this summer with a draw and Densk win. Densk does not play SR in SDL this season. They are a team that his given Densk fits in the past, but Premier and Ando have clearly been the best teams that DT Densk has faced, including loss to Partain. Premier and Andro have a mature style of play, have superb individual ball skills (again superior to the others in my opinion), and are smart. The comment I made previously about ML was not to suggest a return to DT. It was a question to see if he gets the top 01 Andro team next year as I know of several players who left other clubs to potentially play with Marcio. It will also be interesting, as a poster hinted at Andro movement, who goes back to Jon Waters or to their other clubs. Bazan has asked that the 01 boys not play on multiple clubs from this point out. As for the DT v Partain match, the score didn't reflect play. Not sure that having a couple second teamers up hurt, as I think the whole DT team played slow. Partain has some good athletes.

DT beat DTS 4-0 in the Texans Friendlies. DTS was missing a couple of defenders and also had to start their forward at goalie. That being said these two teams usually have some very good battles. Over the past year prior to this game DTS has beaten DT once, lost once and tied twice. Andro, Solar Red & Solar Partain are also very solid teams as well. Looking forward to many more games between these teams.

mplsnsg wrote:Dt Densk does not play DTS in sdl, though they played 3-4 weeks ago in Texans friendlies tourney. It was the only "game" for either team. Densk won someting like 5-6 to 0 I think. They have played each other a couple other times this summer with a draw and Densk win. Densk does not play SR in SDL this season. They are a team that his given Densk fits in the past, but Premier and Ando have clearly been the best teams that DT Densk has faced, including loss to Partain. Premier and Andro have a mature style of play, have superb individual ball skills (again superior to the others in my opinion), and are smart. The comment I made previously about ML was not to suggest a return to DT. It was a question to see if he gets the top 01 Andro team next year as I know of several players who left other clubs to potentially play with Marcio. It will also be interesting, as a poster hinted at Andro movement, who goes back to Jon Waters or to their other clubs. Bazan has asked that the 01 boys not play on multiple clubs from this point out. As for the DT v Partain match, the score didn't reflect play. Not sure that having a couple second teamers up hurt, as I think the whole DT team played slow. Partain has some good athletes.

Im pretty sure about if ML take the 01 team at least 5 or 6 players wont stay.

balin1971 wrote:

mplsnsg wrote:Dt Densk does not play DTS in sdl, though they played 3-4 weeks ago in Texans friendlies tourney. It was the only "game" for either team. Densk won someting like 5-6 to 0 I think. They have played each other a couple other times this summer with a draw and Densk win. Densk does not play SR in SDL this season. They are a team that his given Densk fits in the past, but Premier and Ando have clearly been the best teams that DT Densk has faced, including loss to Partain. Premier and Andro have a mature style of play, have superb individual ball skills (again superior to the others in my opinion), and are smart. The comment I made previously about ML was not to suggest a return to DT. It was a question to see if he gets the top 01 Andro team next year as I know of several players who left other clubs to potentially play with Marcio. It will also be interesting, as a poster hinted at Andro movement, who goes back to Jon Waters or to their other clubs. Bazan has asked that the 01 boys not play on multiple clubs from this point out. As for the DT v Partain match, the score didn't reflect play. Not sure that having a couple second teamers up hurt, as I think the whole DT team played slow. Partain has some good athletes.

Im pretty sure about if ML take the 01 team at least 5 or 6 players wont stay.

Andro right now has the depth of talent to afford losing several good players and not slip... not to mention the kids that keep coming. Aren't the politics grand!

slampg wrote:Andro right now has the depth of talent to afford losing several good players and not slip... not to mention the kids that keep coming. Aren't the politics grand!

Must be nice for Andro! How much more moving around can there be at this point? As you can tell, I have not been through all this before -- but it seems like there already has been a lot of movement as kids this fall started playing for the organizations that they want to stay with for select. Previous posters noted the movement to/from Andro, Texans, Solar, and FCD-Waters. At this point aren't the kids basically riding the horse they want to be on?

This year will make or break teams. Top, middle and bottom teams will lose players during this process, that’s the way it works. Teams will recruit, lose and add talent during this year. Nothing is set in stone. Players will move for several different reasons, only time will tell. For now let’s enjoy some good competitive soccer games, we will see how things unfold in the months to come.

Yes, there will be more moving around.

balin1971 wrote:Im pretty sure about if ML take the 01 team at least 5 or 6 players wont stay.

Why is that ?

Wildcat, I am sorry for the discrepencies in score between DT-Densk and DTS. I will chalk it up to age related dementia. The adrenaline always flows between these two teams.

I am intrigued about balin's comments on ML. He certainly considers himself a great coach and many parents seem to have annointed him the Jose Mourrinho of NTX soccer being the so-called chosen one. Are there issues over on 14th street? He certainly attracted some players to leave the Texans though definitely not the numbers or to the degree that he had anticipated.

There seems to alot of talent and alot of good kids in 01, though not different from other years. I think it is exciting to watch player development though it remains so early to predict their ultimate course. It seems obvious that there are many styles, philosophies and methods to teaching the game of soccer, to keeping children engaged in the game of soccer, and, what seems distressingly important in this neck of the woods, satisfying the demands or beliefs of parents. I only hope that my son is happy,satisfied, and successful with whatever he decides to do, if that is remaining in organized soccer, his education or whatever other activities he participates in. Sounds hokey pokey, but I do not want to be the one who makes his decisions or the one who dicates his life. My own impression is that many parents are too aggressively involved in their child's activities to the point of interference. I see it in the private schools where many parents want their child to go to school X, because of its reputation,even though that child would not do well at school X. They don't care. It's all about the name. The child may go to school X and falter and flail. If the child would have gone to school Z, which may not be to the standards of the parents, the child could have thrived and developed and done who knows what. But, because mom/dad's ego got in the way, development was stunted. This can be said of parental involvement in NTX soccer wanting respective player on a specific team because it has a grand reputation. It may not be a great fit for the player at the time however. Player is not successful and leaves the game. I know it is a generalization that I am making, but from what I read on this forum and what I see and hear, parents should be advocates for their child, but let the decision making, teaching, etc go to the professionals. It is what they are paid to do. Ok, too much philosophizing. Back to work...

gababa wrote:

balin1971 wrote:Im pretty sure about if ML take the 01 team at least 5 or 6 players wont stay.

Why is that ?

Because one of the main reasons players moved from other teams to Andro is Josema Bazan not ML.

balin1971 wrote:

gababa wrote:

balin1971 wrote:Im pretty sure about if ML take the 01 team at least 5 or 6 players wont stay.

Why is that ?

Because one of the main reasons players moved from other teams to Andro is Josema Bazan not ML.

Oh, I just naturally assumed it was because they didn't like yelling and insults.

before next spring, we gonna more and more movement between these teams. I am new to this forum but have watched many games between these teams, so far, I think andro red, dt densk,dts, solar red and premier are on the first tier and we will have a lot of good games between them. I dont think there will be big challenge to these teams.

I think some of the independent teams will shock a few teams. Just like Manchester United beat FCD Premier 3-1 in the Plano Labor Day Tourney. Hope to see them in SDL in the spring.

i thought this manchester team ppl have been discussing is a group of players that all play on a variety of academy teams and come together to play in certain tournaments. i was not aware that they are a so-called indy planning to go to select, ala the bandits etc..

mplsnsg wrote:i thought this manchester team ppl have been discussing is a group of players that all play on a variety of academy teams and come together to play in certain tournaments. i was not aware that they are a so-called indy planning to go to select, ala the bandits etc..

They play CAL, I hope they go select. Good skill on that team.