Sponsored jerseys

I was wondering if FC Dallas Youth will have to buy new jerseys with FC Dallas Advocare on them?
It is great to see sponsors promoting local soccer.
Hopefully they could pass on saving to kids or soccer scholarships..

We are getting new kits this year...I am sure the new sponsor will be on there....we are excited to have them and anticipate the venture being great for us in many ways!!!

yep right after samsung passes on a little cash to me at solar

To Spanish speakers, at first glance, the new FCD sponsor reads…. Avocado.

Before anyone gets into an uproar. I'm a native Spanish speaker.

Texas has more Fortune 500 companies than either California or New York. Couldn't we have Exxon, Dr Pepper, AT&T, etc. I'm happy FCD has a sponsor, but a more national brand would've been cool.

Some of my Spanish speaking friends are indeed calling the logo, the Avocado logo. Guacamole, anyone?

I'm sure Advocare has a great line of products that my kids should be using on a daily basis.

Does anybody remember in high school when all the coolest kids were buying up these Abercrombie or Tommy Hilfiger t-shirts. They were just crappy t-shirts but they had gigantic logos for Abercrombie or Tommy Hilfiger plastered on them. They were crappy shirts but because of those logos the "cool" kids still paid a premium for it.

To me, that was to stupidest crap ever. I saw the shirts and thought, "Wait... you want ME to pay YOU to advertise YOUR BRAND?" Maybe if the t-shirts were free I could understand but I didn't like the t-shirts still. The giant logos are ugly to me. It probably would have taken a free t-shirt AND $5 to get me to wear that crap.

With that said... I think paying $250+ for a kit to advertise for Advocare (or Samsung or whomever) is insulting. If somebody wants me or my children to walk around like a billboard for their company, they should compensate us for it. I do not get any benefit by advertising for your brand otherwise. My child has no loyalty or relationship with Advocare.

Step up clubs... Your corporate agreements shouldn't be applied to kids that are paying $2500/year. Give the kits for free or take the logos off the shirts.

For the pros it's fine because they are being compensated. Pro athletes, like golfers, get to sell their hats or shirts as advertising space. They get paid for that service though.

For these kids that are paying customers... take that crap off or pay them for the space.

[quote="bigtex75081"]I'm sure Advocare has a great line of products that my kids should be using on a daily basis.

Does anybody remember in high school when all the coolest kids were buying up these Abercrombie or Tommy Hilfiger t-shirts. They were just crappy t-shirts but they had gigantic logos for Abercrombie or Tommy Hilfiger plastered on them. They were crappy shirts but because of those logos the "cool" kids still paid a premium for it.

To me, that was to stupidest crap ever. I saw the shirts and thought, "Wait... you want ME to pay YOU to advertise YOUR BRAND?" Maybe if the t-shirts were free I could understand but I didn't like the t-shirts still. The giant logos are ugly to me. It probably would have taken a free t-shirt AND $5 to get me to wear that crap.

With that said... I think paying $250+ for a kit to advertise for Advocare (or Samsung or whomever) is insulting. If somebody wants me or my children to walk around like a billboard for their company, they should compensate us for it. I do not get any benefit by advertising for your brand otherwise. My child has no loyalty or relationship with Advocare.

Step up clubs... Your corporate agreements shouldn't be applied to kids that are paying $2500/year. [i][u]Give the kits for free or take the logos off the shirts.[/u][/i]

For the pros it's fine because they are being compensated. Pro athletes, like golfers, get to sell their hats or shirts as advertising space. They get paid for that service though.

[b][i][u]For these kids that are paying customers... take that crap off or pay them for the space.[/u][/i][/b][/quote]

No joke.
What in the heck do the kids get out of this free advertising?
Did their registration fee go down?
Every Saturday, they'll be walking billboards for a company that's raking in millions a year.
Advocare's based in Plano (Wikipedia).

Frankly I would be fine. Anything that makes youth soccer stronger and helps foot the bills is welcome IMO. Just ask the old andromeda club if they would have liked to have had a deal like this....

The old Andro would have bought the Gucci kits while waiting for the sponsorship money to come in!

Are costs to the families at FCD being reduced because of this partnership with Advocare? Based on Go99's comment, it doesn't sound like the partnership with Samsung has benefitted the families at Solar.

I think all of us are doing this for similar reasons, that we want to help our children grow and develop in a healthy way. I do it because if either of my kids look into the mirror I want them to see a strong, smart, confident and capable person... NOT an Advocare logo.

bigtex75081 wrote:Are costs to the families at FCD being reduced because of this partnership with Advocare? Based on Go99's comment, it doesn't sound like the partnership with Samsung has benefitted the families at Solar.

I think all of us are doing this for similar reasons, that we want to help our children grow and develop in a healthy way. I do it because if either of my kids look into the mirror I want them to see a strong, smart, confident and capable person... NOT an Advocare logo.

I am puzzled why do you think your costs should go down? Your kids probably wear pro soccer jerseys with logos all the time. Is that hurting their moral character?

Advocare isn't sponsoring your kids team they are sponsoring the pro team and your kid wears the pro teams jersey. Hopefully the money does come down to help with the youth develoment though

cowpukesfan wrote:

bigtex75081 wrote:I'm sure Advocare has a great line of products that my kids should be using on a daily basis.

Does anybody remember in high school when all the coolest kids were buying up these Abercrombie or Tommy Hilfiger t-shirts. They were just crappy t-shirts but they had gigantic logos for Abercrombie or Tommy Hilfiger plastered on them. They were crappy shirts but because of those logos the "cool" kids still paid a premium for it.

To me, that was to stupidest crap ever. I saw the shirts and thought, "Wait... you want ME to pay YOU to advertise YOUR BRAND?" Maybe if the t-shirts were free I could understand but I didn't like the t-shirts still. The giant logos are ugly to me. It probably would have taken a free t-shirt AND $5 to get me to wear that crap.

With that said... I think paying $250+ for a kit to advertise for Advocare (or Samsung or whomever) is insulting. If somebody wants me or my children to walk around like a billboard for their company, they should compensate us for it. I do not get any benefit by advertising for your brand otherwise. My child has no loyalty or relationship with Advocare.

Step up clubs... Your corporate agreements shouldn't be applied to kids that are paying $2500/year. Give the kits for free or take the logos off the shirts.

For the pros it's fine because they are being compensated. Pro athletes, like golfers, get to sell their hats or shirts as advertising space. They get paid for that service though.

For these kids that are paying customers... take that crap off or pay them for the space.

No joke.
What in the heck do the kids get out of this free advertising?
Did their registration fee go down?
Every Saturday, they'll be walking billboards for a company that's raking in millions a year.
Advocare's based in Plano (Wikipedia).

You are way off on everything. The pro players aren't getting anything either. Their salaries did not change a bit after the advocare deal. Besides look a little deeper because unless you are a small independant team your kid is flying the Nike or Adidas flag high and proud. What you get from FCD hasn't changed and if anything they should be able to provide more. If you don't like the cost of the product then buy something else. But because they got a shirt deal doesn't mean they owe you anything.

soccerisgood123 wrote:

bigtex75081 wrote:Are costs to the families at FCD being reduced because of this partnership with Advocare? Based on Go99's comment, it doesn't sound like the partnership with Samsung has benefitted the families at Solar.

I think all of us are doing this for similar reasons, that we want to help our children grow and develop in a healthy way. I do it because if either of my kids look into the mirror I want them to see a strong, smart, confident and capable person... NOT an Advocare logo.

I am puzzled why do you think your costs should go down? Your kids probably wear pro soccer jerseys with logos all the time. Is that hurting their moral character?

Do you work for Advocare or FCD? My kids and I don't. If you don't, then your question makes you come across as a tool that's being manipulated by the club.

Personally, I don't like any logos on things I own. I don't like advertising for the car dealership that I purchased my car from. I don't like logos on my clothes. I don't like signs in my yard for people that built my fence or put on my roof. If I'm paid for that advertising space that's different but my kids and I are not here to promote your brand. I don't ask them to walk around with a picture of me on the front of their t-shirts.

bigtex75081 wrote:

soccerisgood123 wrote:

bigtex75081 wrote:Are costs to the families at FCD being reduced because of this partnership with Advocare? Based on Go99's comment, it doesn't sound like the partnership with Samsung has benefitted the families at Solar.

I think all of us are doing this for similar reasons, that we want to help our children grow and develop in a healthy way. I do it because if either of my kids look into the mirror I want them to see a strong, smart, confident and capable person... NOT an Advocare logo.

I am puzzled why do you think your costs should go down? Your kids probably wear pro soccer jerseys with logos all the time. Is that hurting their moral character?

Do you work for Advocare or FCD? My kids and I don't. If you don't, then your question makes you come across as a tool that's being manipulated by the club.

Personally, I don't like any logos on things I own. I don't like advertising for the car dealership that I purchased my car from. I don't like logos on my clothes. I don't like signs in my yard for people that built my fence or put on my roof. If I'm paid for that advertising space that's different but my kids and I are not here to promote your brand. I don't ask them to walk around with a picture of me on the front of their t-shirts.

No I don't work for FCd lol. But I guess you ban your kids from wearing pro jerseys right? Don't know if you do, you bailed on that. question...

soccerisgood123 wrote:

bigtex75081 wrote:

soccerisgood123 wrote:

bigtex75081 wrote:Are costs to the families at FCD being reduced because of this partnership with Advocare? Based on Go99's comment, it doesn't sound like the partnership with Samsung has benefitted the families at Solar.

I think all of us are doing this for similar reasons, that we want to help our children grow and develop in a healthy way. I do it because if either of my kids look into the mirror I want them to see a strong, smart, confident and capable person... NOT an Advocare logo.

I am puzzled why do you think your costs should go down? Your kids probably wear pro soccer jerseys with logos all the time. Is that hurting their moral character?

Do you work for Advocare or FCD? My kids and I don't. If you don't, then your question makes you come across as a tool that's being manipulated by the club.

Personally, I don't like any logos on things I own. I don't like advertising for the car dealership that I purchased my car from. I don't like logos on my clothes. I don't like signs in my yard for people that built my fence or put on my roof. If I'm paid for that advertising space that's different but my kids and I are not here to promote your brand. I don't ask them to walk around with a picture of me on the front of their t-shirts.

No I don't work for FCd lol. But I guess you ban your kids from wearing pro jerseys right? Don't know if you do, you bailed on that. question...

To answer that specific question, no we don't own any pro jerseys. I don't spend much time in team pro-shops.

go99 wrote:Advocare isn't sponsoring your kids team they are sponsoring the pro team and your kid wears the pro teams jersey. Hopefully the money does come down to help with the youth develoment though

To answer other's questions about whether the Advocare sponsorship is noticeably defraying costs in FCD Youth, the answer is NO. The uniform kit for 2012-13 is still > $400 (counting practice stuff, bag, etc). The fees are still in the $2500 range. Basically the youth teams are being used as advertising pawns for the professional team's sponsor. Not that there's anything wrong with that - it's a free country and anyone that doesn't like it can do something else.

My point is that a "Shirt Sponser" should sponsor the shirts, meaning the sponsor provides free or reduced cost jerseys in exchange for advertising. Absolutely not the case in FCDY, so parents shouldn't be under the impression they are getting something in this deal, because they're not (other then their kid playing in a shirt that appears to say "Avocado"...)

To answer that specific question, no we don't own any pro jerseys. I don't spend much time in team pro-shops.


and of course, no nike t shirts, adidas, underarmour right? just non descript white shirts for you? why you think that fcd (or solar or any other team) owes you something is ludicrous. they are a business and they do what they can to promote that business. it's the real world, try it sometime for a change.....

I think only the very confused few thought they were going to get something from that deal. Beside the "shirt" sponsor isn't paying for the shirt. They pay to the club to have their logo on it. Adidas provides the shirts to the pros for free not advocare. So really I guess you should contact the adidas rep and inquire as to why your kid is forced to wear the adidas logo apparel and not have it provided for free.

go99 wrote:I think only the very confused few thought they were going to get something from that deal. Beside the "shirt" sponsor isn't paying for the shirt. They pay to the club to have their logo on it. Adidas provides the shirts to the pros for free not advocare. So really I guess you should contact the adidas rep and inquire as to why your kid is forced to wear the adidas logo apparel and not have it provided for free.

Did you ever see the movie "Bad News Bears"? Clearly Chico's Bail Bonds paid for their uniforms for the right to put their advertising on the shirt.

In this case if they would lower the jersey costs by even 10 bucks it would lessen the pain of having such an ugly logo on the front. Nike, Underarmour, and Adidas at least have "cool" logos which add to the shirts looks. Not sure how well "Advocare" labeled merchendise would sell in the local Sports Authority...

now I definitely agree the logo is ugly and is actually not placed right. They should have had someone from the graphics design department or branding look at it.

go99 wrote:now I definitely agree the logo is ugly and is actually not placed right. They should have had someone from the graphics design department or branding look at it.

i agree to that!

I'm visualizing the "Avocados from Mexico" jingle playing as the pro team hits the field!

soccerisgood123 wrote:To answer that specific question, no we don't own any pro jerseys. I don't spend much time in team pro-shops.


and of course, no nike t shirts, adidas, underarmour right? just non descript white shirts for you? why you think that fcd (or solar or any other team) owes you something is ludicrous. they are a business and they do what they can to promote that business. it's the real world, try it sometime for a change.....

I know you aren’t doing it on purpose, so I’ve reread your posts a couple times to make sure I didn’t misinterpret your tone, but these comments make you come across as a tool that’s being used by the club.

What if FCD’s pro club signed a contract with Chiquita Banana instead of Advocare? Let’s say Chiquita Banana signed an absurd contract worth $50,000,000 but a key stipulation though was, instead of putting a logo on all the team shirts, they wanted the pros and kids to wear banana costumes?

Would you pay for your banana costume? A tool would. A tool would probably suit the kids up while mumbling stupid comments like “they are a business and they do what they can to promote that business.” Or tell their kids, “Isn’t this neat? This is identical to the pro uniform.” (Even though your kid isn’t a pro or being compensated like a pro.) Don’t be a tool.


If you think that’s ridiculous, you’re right, but where do you draw your line? How do you keep your kids from becoming tools for other people to use?

bigtex75081 wrote:

soccerisgood123 wrote:To answer that specific question, no we don't own any pro jerseys. I don't spend much time in team pro-shops.


and of course, no nike t shirts, adidas, underarmour right? just non descript white shirts for you? why you think that fcd (or solar or any other team) owes you something is ludicrous. they are a business and they do what they can to promote that business. it's the real world, try it sometime for a change.....

I know you aren’t doing it on purpose, so I’ve reread your posts a couple times to make sure I didn’t misinterpret your tone, but these comments make you come across as a tool that’s being used by the club.

What if FCD’s pro club signed a contract with Chiquita Banana instead of Advocare? Let’s say Chiquita Banana signed an absurd contract worth $50,000,000 but a key stipulation though was, instead of putting a logo on all the team shirts, they wanted the pros and kids to wear banana costumes?

Would you pay for your banana costume? A tool would. A tool would probably suit the kids up while mumbling stupid comments like “they are a business and they do what they can to promote that business.” Or tell their kids, “Isn’t this neat? This is identical to the pro uniform.” (Even though your kid isn’t a pro or being compensated like a pro.) Don’t be a tool.


If you think that’s ridiculous, you’re right, but where do you draw your line? How do you keep your kids from becoming tools for other people to use?

come back from the light. the only tool in this conversation is you and your absurd entitlement mentality.