shame on you FCD

 Please bear with me for a moment while I rant...last year at this time our FCD coach told us we would be playing in a 99 bracket, mind you we are a 00 group, and he added 4 99's to our core, we played 99 last year and finished top 5, so after the season Frisco decides they are going to pull those 99's up there for whatever reason leaving us as a pure 00 team. The coach decided he will still play the tournaments we have scheduled as 99's and mind you our keeper was one of the 99's that are now gone, so needless to say we got beat very swiftly and some of the parents began to look elsewhere. Those of us loyal to FCD and our coach did not and then...wait for it.....here it comes....WE GET A FREAKIN TEXT MESSAGE june 29 from said "coach" saying he was dropping the team....Seriously?? after us being patient and working with them? FCD could care less about these boys and what they have accomplished. It sickens me that they have done this without any regard what so ever to our team. Thank you FCD for nothing!!!! To leave us scrambling at the last second to find something.....          

We feel your pain, Dad. Unfortunately, it's not the first, nor will it be the last, time that we hear that FCD continues to show that all their players are not equally important.

I had heard that some of the FCD 99 teams were having problems getting players out to tryouts (maybe those parents have learned the lesson?)....I'd be curious to know if that's where your 99s were pulled to?

Did your son find a spot? Good luck to you.

thank you insanity, we have a few that have possibly found homes however being that late in the game rosters are pretty much finalized and there are a few we would prefer to stay away from if you know what I mean but I am hopefull that everything will work out...

00dad wrote: Please bear with me for a moment while I rant...last year at this time our FCD coach told us we would be playing in a 99 bracket, mind you we are a 00 group, and he added 4 99's to our core, we played 99 last year and finished top 5, so after the season Frisco decides they are going to pull those 99's up there for whatever reason leaving us as a pure 00 team. The coach decided he will still play the tournaments we have scheduled as 99's and mind you our keeper was one of the 99's that are now gone, so needless to say we got beat very swiftly and some of the parents began to look elsewhere. Those of us loyal to FCD and our coach did not and then...wait for it.....here it comes....WE GET A FREAKIN TEXT MESSAGE june 29 from said "coach" saying he was dropping the team....Seriously?? after us being patient and working with them? FCD could care less about these boys and what they have accomplished. It sickens me that they have done this without any regard what so ever to our team. Thank you FCD for nothing!!!! To leave us scrambling at the last second to find something.....          

Sorry to hear that 00dad. If any of the 00s are still looking for a team I heard Odyssey has an 00 team with some open spots. Don't know about the team, my BB is older.

thank you for the info Ed, appreciate it!!!

that is a shame. Happens every year though, at some club or team, although not so much to a group that has been doing well. Most parents find out the hard way how ruthless the business is.

Find a coach that works for and is loyal to your bb and stick with him for a while regardless of the club.  Whatever you do around these here parts, DO NOT BE LOYAL TO A CLUB or Club coach because you WILL get burnt.  And what I mean by a Club coach are the ones that do what the club says, regardless of what's wrong or right.  Unfortunately the system is flawed and designed to protect the clubs and not the players.  FCD is the largest around and the majority of their coaches are not competent.  Many examples of that.  But to your scenario, there are more than a couple 99 FCD teams that are falling apart (ie. Arias, Oancea) due to coaches that are all hype and can't win (Lopez) when it counts, so they are scrambling because kids ran from the teams as if the pied piper was in town.

Sorry about what happened to your team, sounds like you got caught in the middle of another bad FCD deal, not that the other clubs are much different.  Take your time and find the right coach this time around.

thank you for the insight ICThelight it is unfortunate that even though making our kids better players and building sportsmanship for other areas in their lives is what they say they will do, they prove that they don't care about your child only that check.... 

Though I don't know all the details this story sound way too familiar. June 29 that's kind of uncalled for. There has to be a better way to do this after all these are 12/13 year old boys and the families deserve a little more respect then how it was communicated to you guys. Honest communication is something that is seriously missing in North Texas soccer. Try to keep on the honest road is all we can do. I think that ICthelight hit the nail on the head. Find a coach that cares about your BB vs looking at a club first. That is the key to this whole gauntlet of North Texas soccer. If you find that your golden the rest should follow. There are coaches and clubs all through the metro area that fit that requirement you just have to do a little leg work to find the right one. Hope and wish the best for you during your search.

Marvelousmar wrote:Though I don't know all the details this story sound way too familiar.  June 29 that's kind of uncalled for.  There has to be a better way to do this after all these are 12/13 year old boys and the families deserve a little more respect then how it was communicated to you guys. Honest communication is something that is seriously missing in North Texas soccer.  Try to keep on the honest road is all we can do.  I think that ICthelight hit the nail on the head.  Find a coach that cares about your BB vs looking at a club first.  That is the key to this whole gauntlet of North Texas soccer.  If you find that your golden the rest should follow.  There are coaches and clubs all through the metro area that fit that requirement you just have to do a little leg work to find the right one.  Hope and wish the best for you during your search.  

Can't always trust the coaches either unfortunately. A friend of mine got a call on June 29th also. His coach called to cut his BB after spending May and most of June practically begging him to return. Some kids dropping out from DA showed up at open practice and the coach wanted to make room. Blindsided them with less than 2 days before signing.

00dad, sorry to hear about the unfortunate situation. If any of the '00 boys are still looking for a new team, I encourage those families to reach out to one of the following coaches at Andromeda FC. There are a couple of open spots (and unique opportunities) still available across the various teams in the '00 age level (Andromeda FC has '00 teams in Classic League D1, Classic League D2, Pre-Academy).

Doug Renner - 972.672.0718
Adam Wells - 972.832.5200
Mike Uremovich - 972.783.0555

Ed wrote:

Marvelousmar wrote:Though I don't know all the details this story sound way too familiar.  June 29 that's kind of uncalled for.  There has to be a better way to do this after all these are 12/13 year old boys and the families deserve a little more respect then how it was communicated to you guys. Honest communication is something that is seriously missing in North Texas soccer.  Try to keep on the honest road is all we can do.  I think that ICthelight hit the nail on the head.  Find a coach that cares about your BB vs looking at a club first.  That is the key to this whole gauntlet of North Texas soccer.  If you find that your golden the rest should follow.  There are coaches and clubs all through the metro area that fit that requirement you just have to do a little leg work to find the right one.  Hope and wish the best for you during your search.  

Can't always trust the coaches either unfortunately. A friend of mine got a call on June 29th also. His coach called to cut his BB after spending May and most of June practically begging him to return. Some kids dropping out from DA showed up at open practice and the coach wanted to make room. Blindsided them with less than 2 days before signing.

That's true not all coaches are honest. That's why you have to try to find a coach that is honest. That's the tough part but they are out there.

All of this is a result of not having Óscar Pareja around anymore. The coaches at FC Dallas are a joke! Chris Hayden is the biggest one! Molina barley knows what he's doing, and Luchi isn't even ready to coach at that level, too young. We don't even need to waste time talking about coaches like Clem Oancea, one of the worst coaches in all ntx! Every team he coaches falls apart, literally every team he coaches goes backwards. And why does Hayden keep giving him teams, it's called brown nosing! He loses every team he gets. FC Dallas should of never let Pareja go, not if they wanted to be considered the top youth academy in the US. They should of given him whatever he wanted. The coaches that are there now aren't qualified to being doing that level. Did anyone see the U18 at the academy regional playoffs, pathetic. They were outplayed, out coached, out classed, you name it, the other teams were better. I'm sorry to hear about what happen to your team 00dad, did you you give Hayden a call? Wonder what he said about it? Probably doesn't care.....

Another Hayden reference....

Fctillidie wrote:All of this is a result of not having Óscar Pareja around anymore. The coaches at FC Dallas are a joke! Chris Hayden is the biggest one! Molina barley knows what he's doing, and Luchi isn't even ready to coach at that level, too young. We don't even need to waste time talking about coaches like Clem Oancea, one of the worst coaches in all ntx! Every team he coaches falls apart, literally every team he coaches goes backwards. And why does Hayden keep giving him teams, it's called brown nosing! He loses every team he gets. FC Dallas should of never let Pareja go, not if they wanted to be considered the top youth academy in the US. They should of given him whatever he wanted. The coaches that are there now aren't qualified to being doing that level. Did anyone see the U18 at the academy regional playoffs, pathetic. They were outplayed, out coached, out classed, you name it, the other teams were better. I'm sorry to hear about what happen to your team 00dad, did you you give Hayden a call? Wonder what he said about it? Probably doesn't care.....

which coach again, FCD gold or central or premier? 

omega striker wrote:

Fctillidie wrote:All of this is a result of not having Óscar Pareja around anymore. The coaches at FC Dallas are a joke! Chris Hayden is the biggest one! Molina barley knows what he's doing, and Luchi isn't even ready to coach at that level, too young. We don't even need to waste time talking about coaches like Clem Oancea, one of the worst coaches in all ntx! Every team he coaches falls apart, literally every team he coaches goes backwards. And why does Hayden keep giving him teams, it's called brown nosing! He loses every team he gets. FC Dallas should of never let Pareja go, not if they wanted to be considered the top youth academy in the US. They should of given him whatever he wanted. The coaches that are there now aren't qualified to being doing that level. Did anyone see the U18 at the academy regional playoffs, pathetic. They were outplayed, out coached, out classed, you name it, the other teams were better. I'm sorry to hear about what happen to your team 00dad, did you you give Hayden a call? Wonder what he said about it? Probably doesn't care.....

which coach again, FCD gold or central or premier? 

os, they are talking about Clem Oancea. Word is that two weeks ago, because they were losing so many players from the 99 Premier Team, the almighty Chris Hayden decided to combine FCD Central and Premier to make one really good team, then have a second team, both playing D1. They practiced together for about a week, got the parents all excited, then on Monday, said "No we have decided not to do this". It was designed to get a couple of players to stay with the club instead of leaving. Hayden and Company have no respect for kids in the club, they are more interested in attracting kids from other clubs, then when they convince them to come over, they just get screwed like all the FCD kids that have been around, just ask those Texan kids that came over to the 99PA team last year, got spots the day they showed up, then were gone by December. They have destroyed the 99 age group, now it sounds like they are trying to do the same to the 00's. Sad.

onetouch wrote:

omega striker wrote:

Fctillidie wrote:All of this is a result of not having Óscar Pareja around anymore. The coaches at FC Dallas are a joke! Chris Hayden is the biggest one! Molina barley knows what he's doing, and Luchi isn't even ready to coach at that level, too young. We don't even need to waste time talking about coaches like Clem Oancea, one of the worst coaches in all ntx! Every team he coaches falls apart, literally every team he coaches goes backwards. And why does Hayden keep giving him teams, it's called brown nosing! He loses every team he gets. FC Dallas should of never let Pareja go, not if they wanted to be considered the top youth academy in the US. They should of given him whatever he wanted. The coaches that are there now aren't qualified to being doing that level. Did anyone see the U18 at the academy regional playoffs, pathetic. They were outplayed, out coached, out classed, you name it, the other teams were better. I'm sorry to hear about what happen to your team 00dad, did you you give Hayden a call? Wonder what he said about it? Probably doesn't care.....

which coach again, FCD gold or central or premier? 

os, they are talking about Clem Oancea.  Word is that two weeks ago, because they were losing so many players from the 99 Premier Team, the almighty Chris Hayden decided to combine FCD Central and Premier to make one really good team, then have a second team, both playing D1.  They practiced together for about a week, got the parents all excited, then on Monday, said "No we have decided not to do this".  It was designed to get a couple of players to stay with the club instead of leaving.  Hayden and Company have no respect for kids in the club, they are more interested in attracting kids from other clubs, then when they convince them to come over, they just get screwed like all the FCD kids that have been around, just ask those Texan kids that came over to the 99PA team last year, got spots the day they showed up, then were gone by December.  They have destroyed the 99 age group, now it sounds like they are trying to do the same to the 00's.  Sad.  

it sure seems like it doesn't it? in the 99's the best FCD team is now in D2  

Agreed

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00dad wrote: Please bear with me for a moment while I rant...last year at this time our FCD coach told us we would be playing in a 99 bracket, mind you we are a 00 group, and he added 4 99's to our core, we played 99 last year and finished top 5, so after the season Frisco decides they are going to pull those 99's up there for whatever reason leaving us as a pure 00 team. The coach decided he will still play the tournaments we have scheduled as 99's and mind you our keeper was one of the 99's that are now gone, so needless to say we got beat very swiftly and some of the parents began to look elsewhere. Those of us loyal to FCD and our coach did not and then...wait for it.....here it comes....WE GET A FREAKIN TEXT MESSAGE june 29 from said "coach" saying he was dropping the team....Seriously?? after us being patient and working with them? FCD could care less about these boys and what they have accomplished. It sickens me that they have done this without any regard what so ever to our team. Thank you FCD for nothing!!!! To leave us scrambling at the last second to find something.....          

Finished top 5 in what div? No 00 team played div1 99 in classic . DA has basically laid a terd on most kids just wanting to have a home and play high level soccer. The funny thing is the parents eat that s* up. The best players BS, it's a congregation of solid talent no more no less. If you don't play DA you are just a check to the clubs . That's their shiny new toy and the other crappy toys get ye old fire cracker up the butt or magnifying glass burn treatment . It's to the point of being so obvious it's silly.

onetouch wrote:

omega striker wrote:

Fctillidie wrote:All of this is a result of not having Óscar Pareja around anymore. The coaches at FC Dallas are a joke! Chris Hayden is the biggest one! Molina barley knows what he's doing, and Luchi isn't even ready to coach at that level, too young. We don't even need to waste time talking about coaches like Clem Oancea, one of the worst coaches in all ntx! Every team he coaches falls apart, literally every team he coaches goes backwards. And why does Hayden keep giving him teams, it's called brown nosing! He loses every team he gets. FC Dallas should of never let Pareja go, not if they wanted to be considered the top youth academy in the US. They should of given him whatever he wanted. The coaches that are there now aren't qualified to being doing that level. Did anyone see the U18 at the academy regional playoffs, pathetic. They were outplayed, out coached, out classed, you name it, the other teams were better. I'm sorry to hear about what happen to your team 00dad, did you you give Hayden a call? Wonder what he said about it? Probably doesn't care.....

which coach again, FCD gold or central or premier? 

os, they are talking about Clem Oancea.  Word is that two weeks ago, because they were losing so many players from the 99 Premier Team, the almighty Chris Hayden decided to combine FCD Central and Premier to make one really good team, then have a second team, both playing D1.  They practiced together for about a week, got the parents all excited, then on Monday, said "No we have decided not to do this".  It was designed to get a couple of players to stay with the club instead of leaving.  Hayden and Company have no respect for kids in the club, they are more interested in attracting kids from other clubs, then when they convince them to come over, they just get screwed like all the FCD kids that have been around, just ask those Texan kids that came over to the 99PA team last year, got spots the day they showed up, then were gone by December.  They have destroyed the 99 age group, now it sounds like they are trying to do the same to the 00's.  Sad.  

Your info is a tad off. Most of the parents on premier pitched the fit regarding the merger . Integrity was a issue, again FCD fault .

Totally agree with Haden shiting on his own club players . The ironic thing is he will BS, recruit and pilage then say the players are HOMEGROWN!

Clem is a solid who only coaches what he's dealt he's always been very honest from my experience. And if you look at the GA of premier we finish 4th or 5th so it's headed in the right direction. We just need to find the net alittle more and that will come . He's returning 13 players and that's about the norm for any team.

plantit wrote:

onetouch wrote:

omega striker wrote:

Fctillidie wrote:All of this is a result of not having Óscar Pareja around anymore. The coaches at FC Dallas are a joke! Chris Hayden is the biggest one! Molina barley knows what he's doing, and Luchi isn't even ready to coach at that level, too young. We don't even need to waste time talking about coaches like Clem Oancea, one of the worst coaches in all ntx! Every team he coaches falls apart, literally every team he coaches goes backwards. And why does Hayden keep giving him teams, it's called brown nosing! He loses every team he gets. FC Dallas should of never let Pareja go, not if they wanted to be considered the top youth academy in the US. They should of given him whatever he wanted. The coaches that are there now aren't qualified to being doing that level. Did anyone see the U18 at the academy regional playoffs, pathetic. They were outplayed, out coached, out classed, you name it, the other teams were better. I'm sorry to hear about what happen to your team 00dad, did you you give Hayden a call? Wonder what he said about it? Probably doesn't care.....

which coach again, FCD gold or central or premier? 

os, they are talking about Clem Oancea.  Word is that two weeks ago, because they were losing so many players from the 99 Premier Team, the almighty Chris Hayden decided to combine FCD Central and Premier to make one really good team, then have a second team, both playing D1.  They practiced together for about a week, got the parents all excited, then on Monday, said "No we have decided not to do this".  It was designed to get a couple of players to stay with the club instead of leaving.  Hayden and Company have no respect for kids in the club, they are more interested in attracting kids from other clubs, then when they convince them to come over, they just get screwed like all the FCD kids that have been around, just ask those Texan kids that came over to the 99PA team last year, got spots the day they showed up, then were gone by December.  They have destroyed the 99 age group, now it sounds like they are trying to do the same to the 00's.  Sad.  

Your info is a tad off. Most of the parents on premier pitched the fit regarding the merger . Integrity was a issue, again FCD fault .

Totally agree with Haden shiting on his own club players . The ironic thing is he will BS, recruit and pilage then say the players are HOMEGROWN!

Clem is a solid who only coaches what he's dealt he's always been very honest from my experience. And if you look at the GA of premier we finish 4th or 5th so it's headed in the right direction. We just need to find the net alittle more and that will come . He's returning 13 players and that's about the norm for any team.

Second hand info is always a bit off, thanks for the clarification. Agree on Clem, nice guy, just not sure he really wants to coach the team, seems more interested in his college team. Hayden is in way over his head, sooner than later all his lies and false promises will doom him. But as long as there are parents unaware of how things really work at FCD, he will be able to continue to fool people for ever.

Odyssey 00 Boys do have a couple of spots open and we are playing in D2 classic if interested. Contact Paddy at 682-553-7807

onetouch wrote:

plantit wrote:

onetouch wrote:

omega striker wrote:

Fctillidie wrote:All of this is a result of not having Óscar Pareja around anymore. The coaches at FC Dallas are a joke! Chris Hayden is the biggest one! Molina barley knows what he's doing, and Luchi isn't even ready to coach at that level, too young. We don't even need to waste time talking about coaches like Clem Oancea, one of the worst coaches in all ntx! Every team he coaches falls apart, literally every team he coaches goes backwards. And why does Hayden keep giving him teams, it's called brown nosing! He loses every team he gets. FC Dallas should of never let Pareja go, not if they wanted to be considered the top youth academy in the US. They should of given him whatever he wanted. The coaches that are there now aren't qualified to being doing that level. Did anyone see the U18 at the academy regional playoffs, pathetic. They were outplayed, out coached, out classed, you name it, the other teams were better. I'm sorry to hear about what happen to your team 00dad, did you you give Hayden a call? Wonder what he said about it? Probably doesn't care.....

which coach again, FCD gold or central or premier? 

os, they are talking about Clem Oancea.  Word is that two weeks ago, because they were losing so many players from the 99 Premier Team, the almighty Chris Hayden decided to combine FCD Central and Premier to make one really good team, then have a second team, both playing D1.  They practiced together for about a week, got the parents all excited, then on Monday, said "No we have decided not to do this".  It was designed to get a couple of players to stay with the club instead of leaving.  Hayden and Company have no respect for kids in the club, they are more interested in attracting kids from other clubs, then when they convince them to come over, they just get screwed like all the FCD kids that have been around, just ask those Texan kids that came over to the 99PA team last year, got spots the day they showed up, then were gone by December.  They have destroyed the 99 age group, now it sounds like they are trying to do the same to the 00's.  Sad.  

Your info is a tad off. Most of the parents on premier pitched the fit regarding the merger . Integrity was a issue, again FCD fault .

Totally agree with Haden shiting on his own club players . The ironic thing is he will BS, recruit and pilage then say the players are HOMEGROWN!

Clem is a solid who only coaches what he's dealt he's always been very honest from my experience. And if you look at the GA of premier we finish 4th or 5th so it's headed in the right direction. We just need to find the net alittle more and that will come . He's returning 13 players and that's about the norm for any team.

Second hand info is always a bit off, thanks for the clarification.  Agree on Clem, nice guy, just not sure he really wants to coach the team, seems more interested in his college team.  Hayden is in way over his head, sooner than later all his lies and false promises will doom him.  But as long as there are parents unaware of how things really work at FCD, he will be able to continue to fool people for ever.

Don't know Clem much other than what I've heard, but Onetouch's comments are consistent with that. I will have to agree 100% on the Hayden comments, we took the bait, hook, line, and sinker! Don't fall for it. Very nice guy and did the right thing for us in the end luckily, but we wasted 7 months of our time. Live and learn.

No, you're right...you shouldn't fall for it. Why should anyone want to play for one of the premier soccer academies in the country in FC Dallas? Come on...get real! What other club in North Texas came close to the success they had last year....or the country for that matter? Their U16 and U18 DA teams each won their league and made the playoffs again....but didnt advance...so now they don't know what they are doing?......laughable! Oh and lets see, their U13, U14 and U15 Preacademy teams all won their division and are all going to nationals this month as a result. That means every FCD Academy team finished their league in 1st place! I smell sour grapes. There are no promises made...if you hear one then you probably heard wrong. FCD is investing in these kids and they are looking for the best. When someone better comes along, then they will make room for them....then your BB is off the team. That's the way it works....simple as that. Every year they are looking to replace your BB with someone better. If your BB keeps his position, then everything is good. If not, then you have to find another team......but you shouldn't come on this public forum and bash them as a result. Just move on quietly. The commitment it takes isn't for everyone. Oh, and Clem is a great coach and a great guy.