cost of going select 2014

• Indoor season fees.  
  
• The special Select ball.  
  
• Camps.  
  
• Private skills.  
  
• Throw in for a team party.  
  
• Gift for the coach during the holidays.
  

soccerjunkie wrote:Please feel free to add any fees that I'm not including:


$630 Players Registaration
$725.00 QT Fees
$870.00 Fall Fee (Classic)
$350.00 Fee for Refs
$750.00 Fee for field Main
$800 CL Field Fees
$870.00 Spring Fee
$315.00 Fee for Ref's Spring


Club fees per year $2600-$3000 per player
Uniform kit per player between $200-$400 per player

* Not included tournament fees through the year and travel including gas and parking.

So around 4000.00 per team with a roster of 18 (too big IMO) $ 225 per player.   Then add the club fees around 2800-3400 (includes uniform kit ).   basically rough estimate : $3000 bare minimal up to $3700 per player per year.   I'm guessing with additional tournaments and travel is safe to say around $4500-$5000 per player.    

Someone confirm please.    That does not include the scholarship players with the new cleats every season (that's a joke...sort of)

• Texans South – 2500 (practice on a public park)
  
• Wizards 1700 (practice on dedicated fields at Mountain View College)
  
• Texas Lightnings 2400 (practice dedicated fields at a public park rented by the club)  
  
• Solar 3200 (practice on a first come first serves public fields) often gets kicked out by rec teams
  
• Anoranzas 600 (practice on a public park)  
  

bigtex75081 wrote:Those are the big costs but the nickles and dimes also creep in there as well.  

• Indoor season fees.  
  
• The special Select ball.  
  
• Camps.  
  
• Private skills.  
  
• Throw in for a team party.  
  
• Gift for the coach during the holidays.
  

• Player Cards.  (Because the indoor league fee, a signed waiver, & your own insurance used as the primary isn't enough.)
  
• Parking.  (Because the tournament's registration fee isn't enough indication to organizers that you'll actually need to park in 1 of the 10,000 available parking spaces.)
  

Fctillidie wrote:Wembley what the hell is dedicated fields? Mountain view fields are crap, they are worst then utd. Just cause the school has improved and the stadium next to it is nice has nothin to do with the fields for practice. Also doesn't help that wizards put 7 teams on one practice field. You want great fields? Come to Fc. We got Frisco and Money Gram now!  

Fctillidie wrote:Wembley what the hell is dedicated fields? Mountain view fields are crap, they are worst then utd. Just cause the school has improved and the stadium next to it is nice has nothin to do with the fields for practice. Also doesn't help that wizards put 7 teams on one practice field. You want great fields? Come to Fc. We got Frisco and Money Gram now!  

Marvelousmar wrote:A wise man once told me you get what you pay for.  Now I try to review that in North Texas Soccer.  It's so hard to just look at fees and make that be the driving fact of where you go.  We are talking about your kids not a bid for a roof repair.  So more then just price has to be considered.  We do live on a budget so that also needs to be considered.  The problem is it seems folks think you could just list out the prices and what it covers and it should be on a website for each person to grab.  You can find that out by asking questions of the teams your interested in and they would tell you.  Then you can add all the things together and determine if it is in the range of what you want.  The question is how much is too much.  That depends on the individual.  Going to have a little comparison for you.  Mc Donalds Coffee vs Starbucks.  2.5 vs $5.  Both are hot both have the drug that picks you up.  Some like McDonalds and others go to Starbucks.

$5 a day for 5 days a week arrives at 1,300.  $10 (2 cups) a day arrives at your average big club cost. I think your kids are worth more then a couple of cups of coffee. Let's do some math. (Because I love numbers)

Let's use Plano as an example.  (Classic is more expensive but I'll use Plano team of 16
League fees 1,550.
Ref Fees about 720
Associate reg. 400
Indoor Rental (8 days) 1,200
Tournaments (5*595) 2,975
Field Costs varies do you rent play at public parks, own your own facilities ect.  Lets use Plano rental costs with lights $50 per session 2 sessions a week for 40 weeks. 4,000.
Equipment $500 a year ( bibs, clothing, cones etc)
11,345 before adding coach pay.  $709  a player.

DOC- Director of Coaching does the club have a plan.  Should get paid
DOA- Director of Academy does the club have a future. Should get paid
Coach-  80 session at 1.5 hours drive time and prep time make that 3 hours on average.  min 15 games on tourneys and 18 league games  3 hours each min or about 339 hours minimum a year.  A good coach is a teacher of these boys more then just the game but of life.  What is a fair hourly rate for this time.  I know a lot of you would like to say they should do it for free.  ( you get what you pay for )  but if you want someone to put an effort into that what is fair.  Babysitters( under 16 get 20 an hour) so would $40  be fair. to Teach 16 boys.
Website, insurance, other costs.
Adds about 20K to the team give or take.  To about 31.3 K or 1,956 bucks give or take a year minimum.  Now cutting out costs associated in the bottom half is possible. However, that's a different discussion.  or $5.35 a day.  A little more then a cup of Coffee per day at Starbucks.  

The memories and the lessons learned.  Priceless.
Now the argument might say the money could be spent elsewhere. Like on a cup of coffee.  That you piss a way in a few hours.  The look on Johnny, Billy or sue after playing a great game and scoring the winning goal.  Ah worth the cup of coffee in spades.  

Every year this question of "cost of going select" in some way happens.  
What's the cost of not going select.  Mm  a kid staying in front of  a computer playing mind craft become obese and the medical bills associated with it.
The missed opportunities of meeting you folks and traveling.   Oh I could come up with a long list.  But let's not just focus on the cost and focus on what you get for your costs.  If it's something you want and your child wants then go ahead and go select.  If not there is always rec.  But if you want someone to invest in your child,  I believe you should also invest in that someone.

Neymar11 wrote:

Marvelousmar wrote:A wise man once told me you get what you pay for.  Now I try to review that in North Texas Soccer.  It's so hard to just look at fees and make that be the driving fact of where you go.  We are talking about your kids not a bid for a roof repair.  So more then just price has to be considered.  We do live on a budget so that also needs to be considered.  The problem is it seems folks think you could just list out the prices and what it covers and it should be on a website for each person to grab.  You can find that out by asking questions of the teams your interested in and they would tell you.  Then you can add all the things together and determine if it is in the range of what you want.  The question is how much is too much.  That depends on the individual.  Going to have a little comparison for you.  Mc Donalds Coffee vs Starbucks.  2.5 vs $5.  Both are hot both have the drug that picks you up.  Some like McDonalds and others go to Starbucks.

$5 a day for 5 days a week arrives at 1,300.  $10 (2 cups) a day arrives at your average big club cost. I think your kids are worth more then a couple of cups of coffee. Let's do some math. (Because I love numbers)

Let's use Plano as an example.  (Classic is more expensive but I'll use Plano team of 16
League fees 1,550.
Ref Fees about 720
Associate reg. 400
Indoor Rental (8 days) 1,200
Tournaments (5*595) 2,975
Field Costs varies do you rent play at public parks, own your own facilities ect.  Lets use Plano rental costs with lights $50 per session 2 sessions a week for 40 weeks. 4,000.
Equipment $500 a year ( bibs, clothing, cones etc)
11,345 before adding coach pay.  $709  a player.

DOC- Director of Coaching does the club have a plan.  Should get paid
DOA- Director of Academy does the club have a future. Should get paid
Coach-  80 session at 1.5 hours drive time and prep time make that 3 hours on average.  min 15 games on tourneys and 18 league games  3 hours each min or about 339 hours minimum a year.  A good coach is a teacher of these boys more then just the game but of life.  What is a fair hourly rate for this time.  I know a lot of you would like to say they should do it for free.  ( you get what you pay for )  but if you want someone to put an effort into that what is fair.  Babysitters( under 16 get 20 an hour) so would $40  be fair. to Teach 16 boys.
Website, insurance, other costs.
Adds about 20K to the team give or take.  To about 31.3 K or 1,956 bucks give or take a year minimum.  Now cutting out costs associated in the bottom half is possible. However, that's a different discussion.  or $5.35 a day.  A little more then a cup of Coffee per day at Starbucks.  

The memories and the lessons learned.  Priceless.
Now the argument might say the money could be spent elsewhere. Like on a cup of coffee.  That you piss a way in a few hours.  The look on Johnny, Billy or sue after playing a great game and scoring the winning goal.  Ah worth the cup of coffee in spades.  

Every year this question of "cost of going select" in some way happens.  
What's the cost of not going select.  Mm  a kid staying in front of  a computer playing mind craft become obese and the medical bills associated with it.
The missed opportunities of meeting you folks and traveling.   Oh I could come up with a long list.  But let's not just focus on the cost and focus on what you get for your costs.  If it's something you want and your child wants then go ahead and go select.  If not there is always rec.  But if you want someone to invest in your child,  I believe you should also invest in that someone.

Now, an even wiser man is saying that you get what you pay for except in NTX soccer! Haha jk jk

All jokes aside I agree with most everything you point out in theory, though the memories probably aren't the same for little Johnny if he's in roster spot 15-18 and he's watching little Billy score the winning goal while he rides the pine because he already played his token 5-7 mins just before the half and he doesn't get to go back in because the team really needed this win.

It also may not be the same (memories, or dollars well spent, or got what I paid for) if you feel like you paid for the $5 cup of coffee (twice a day) and you went ahead and paid for it up front for a year and signed a contract that you could only drink the $5 coffee for the next year, only for the company you went with to switch their coffee beans to cheap imitation beans, which are worth even less then the $2.5 cup you chose to ignore since you wanted the big name brand coffee. Although since you signed for the year you are stuck paying the $5 price even though the company made the switch of the coffee beans.

A wise man also once told me don't put all your eggs in one basket!

That's probably enough food for thought.... Sorry couldn't resist one last joke  

Respect_All wrote:Thousands of kids with talent and desire in the US to play soccer do not succeed, because their families can't afford these costs.  

If we made it more affordable for parents, the pool of talent feeding the US Soccer Development program will grow...just my opinion.

Respect_All wrote:Thousands of kids with talent and desire in the US to play soccer do not succeed, because their families can't afford these costs.  

If we made it more affordable for parents, the pool of talent feeding the US Soccer Development program will grow...just my opinion.