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Post by heyyouguys 5/29/2014, 10:13 am

All they did was seed everyone based on the Round 1 point totals... thus Genesis is 1st seed, and going down... looks like any ties were then based on their original seeding.

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Post by Quicker02 5/29/2014, 10:37 am

I would agree, but it could be set up based points without classic teams eliminating themselves. They are allowing challenge teams in without playing a classic team. Makes no sense, none.

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Post by gsterbenz 5/29/2014, 11:00 am

i agree with what you are saying and what they appear to have done. I don't think this method really ends up with the best teams being in classic of the 14. We already saw that in the first round where the brackets of 3 did not play the exact same competition which to me is flawed to begin with much like this one. Seems rather unfortunate to line up a bracket with ZERO classic teams (2 of which will qualify) and another bracket with one classic team and then having two brackets with three classic teams. Additionally bracket A has three 2nd place finishers. Yes, Genesis had the highest points but really? The top team they have faced was a 9th place classic III team in the first round. Seems to me they need to put some further analysis into how they place teams and not just go by the numbers.

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Post by manufan20 5/29/2014, 11:04 am

All of the challenge teams play at least one classic team in round 2.

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Post by debit 5/29/2014, 11:06 am

I agree. I thought group B looked pretty tough until I saw group C. There will definitely be some strong teams left out of Classic. Will that cause those teams to blow up? It's been happening at some of the older ages...

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Post by Soccerdad47 5/31/2014, 12:41 am

Going to be a great weekend! Good luck to all the teams.

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Post by Bigskinny29 6/2/2014, 3:00 pm

Just in case anyone is interested and hasnt check this out for themselves yet - here is how the 02 Boys Challenge Games shook out.

Unofficial 2014/2015 DIII:
FW Strikers (Relegated from D2)
Real Estudiantil (Relegated from D2)
Dallas Texans 02 Boys Red South
Genesis
Mansfield Revolution
LP Barnes
Superior Aztecas
Wizards
FCD Blue
FC Premiere

Manch Red Devils OUT
Andro Red OUT
Solar Blue OUT (did not attempt CG's)
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Post by cowpukesfan 6/2/2014, 3:04 pm

Congrats to DT Red South and the Wizards in making it to DIII.

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Post by Offside 6/3/2014, 1:21 pm

Bigskinny29 wrote:Just in case anyone is interested and hasnt check this out for themselves yet - here is how the 02 Boys Challenge Games shook out.

Unofficial 2014/2015 DIII:
FW Strikers (Relegated from D2)
Real Estudiantil (Relegated from D2)
Dallas Texans 02 Boys Red South
Genesis
Mansfield Revolution
LP Barnes
Superior Aztecas
Wizards
FCD Blue
FC Premiere

Manch Red Devils OUT
Andro Red OUT
Solar Blue OUT (did not attempt CG's)

How likely is it that these teams rosters will stay intact by league play?
Good luck!

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Post by Bigskinny29 6/3/2014, 1:37 pm

Good point, Offside. Typically, qualifying for Classic League bodes well for retaining core players and attracting talent no matter which division the team qualified for. However, this year seems a bit crazy with a host of CL teams losing super star talent to PA, UIL coaching conflicts, and what have you..... This could persuade top talent from the DIII teams to go for open spots on teams in a higher division. Also, depending on the structure of the club, top talent could be cannibalized from lower tier teams and pulled up to top tier teams.

We shall see how it plays out.
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