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Post by Sprint 11/21/2014, 9:48 am

http://backpagefootball.com/klinsmann-vs-mls-vs-ussf-vs-reality/87771/


Interesting article on development in the US and the recent dust up between MLS and Klinsman's comments that young US players should go overseas to get better.

An interesting note in there states that even though Yedlin is wanted by Tottenham this January it looks like he may not be able to go due to citizenship issues. Goes to show how hard it really is for American's to get over to the EPL.

Also makes a good point about the current system missing a lot of players in this large of a country.


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Post by Reality Check 11/30/2014, 9:26 pm

230+ views and not one post? wheres the forum soccer experts?

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Post by soccerdadrandy 11/30/2014, 10:49 pm

klinsmann says those that can, should play at highest level. lol can't argue with that
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Post by earbucket 12/1/2014, 1:34 pm

The article points out the limitations and problems of the development system in the US, but doesn't illustrate any tangible fixes.  It also supports a false analogy by comparing the success of the US Women's team to the lack of comparable success by the Men's team.  

Pay to play has limitations, but what is the author's solution? That some Sugar Daddy pays the way for all development academies and rural club teams?

What I'm curious about is the criticism that American players do not have individual tactical intelligence.  I know there are team tactics, but is individual tactical intelligence another term for soccer IQ (similar as someone having a basketball IQ)?

How is that better developed in the pay for play system?

Here is an article by Bobby Warshaw on the topic.

"Individual clarity refers to a player's understanding of his role at any given moment. It is the most important part of a tactical plan. If each player doesn't understand his role at every moment, the plan means nothing. It's just words thrown out in the locker room."

http://deadspin.com/why-soccer-tactics-matter-a-player-explains-1566582214

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Post by Reality Check 12/11/2014, 6:17 am

nice find earbucket

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Post by omega striker 1/3/2015, 1:23 pm

747 views and only 4 replies? well now 5 with my post Razz
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Post by soccerdadrandy 1/3/2015, 1:40 pm

Six!! Smile
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Post by PG-Boy 1/3/2015, 3:09 pm

Did you read this from Kobe about basketball youth development in the US? It's a similar debate about US youth soccer.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=12114523&city=losangeles&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F%22%7D
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Post by omega striker 1/3/2015, 9:33 pm

PG-Boy wrote:Did you read this from Kobe about basketball youth development in the US? It's a similar debate about US youth soccer.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=12114523&city=losangeles&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F%22%7D
nah not a bball fan but not buying it just because selfish ass kobe said it I mean its not like it came from Michael jordans mouth affraid
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Post by earbucket 1/4/2015, 9:31 am

Ok, here is a tweet that sums up the American way of talent selection.

"When it's 50/50 jungle ball soccer, results are mostly random with an edge to whoever has better players at 50/50 jungle ball soccer."

"This is not global gold standard football. Global gold standard football is a science, it’s tactical, it’s choreographed."

Further down in the comments is a good synopsis of the Barca way.  I think futsal is a great way to develop these principles.

"The 5 basic principles of how Guardiola wants his team to play are:

1. – Offensive football . The style that Guardiola has in mind and try to convey to his players is attacking, dominating football . Want to take the initiative always, keep the ball and look for the goals. This is a risk because the exposure to dangerous counter attacks

2. – The third man. To avoid counterattacks Guardiola recommends to players that, whenever possible, seek out the companion closest to the opposition goal and pass him the ball. If there is no option to make the pass, then played it short. This concept was taught to him by Cruyff.

3. – The free man. According to the coach, that’s the key to keep the ball and the essence of the positional game. During possession, players move to find free space and get open to receive a pass.

4. – Collective zonal pressure. For Guardiola the defensive player should never be static, and he should stand between opposing players to go to different pressuring places depending on how the rival attacks

5. – Ball circulation. For Guardiola the purpose of possession “is not moving the ball, but move your opponent.” The objective should be to move the rival to a given area, and surprise it, attacking in a different, neglected space."

http://blog.3four3.com/2012/10/02/us-soccer-unravelled-in-under-140-characters/

So what local clubs/teams are developing players in this fashion? What college teams or MLS teams play this way?

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Post by omega striker 1/4/2015, 12:56 pm

earbucket wrote:Ok, here is a tweet that sums up the American way of talent selection.

"When it's 50/50 jungle ball soccer, results are mostly random with an edge to whoever has better players at 50/50 jungle ball soccer."

"This is not global gold standard football. Global gold standard football is a science, it’s tactical, it’s choreographed."

Further down in the comments is a good synopsis of the Barca way.  I think futsal is a great way to develop these principles.

"The 5 basic principles of how Guardiola wants his team to play are:

1. – Offensive football . The style that Guardiola has in mind and try to convey to his players is attacking, dominating football . Want to take the initiative always, keep the ball and look for the goals. This is a risk because the exposure to dangerous counter attacks

2. – The third man. To avoid counterattacks Guardiola recommends to players that, whenever possible, seek out the companion closest to the opposition goal and pass him the ball. If there is no option to make the pass, then played it short. This concept was taught to him by Cruyff.

3. – The free man. According to the coach, that’s the key to keep the ball and the essence of the positional game. During possession, players move to find free space and get open to receive a pass.

4. – Collective zonal pressure. For Guardiola the defensive player should never be static, and he should stand between opposing players to go to different pressuring places depending on how the rival attacks

5. – Ball circulation. For Guardiola the purpose of possession “is not moving the ball, but move your opponent.” The objective should be to move the rival to a given area, and surprise it, attacking in a different, neglected space."

http://blog.3four3.com/2012/10/02/us-soccer-unravelled-in-under-140-characters/

So what local clubs/teams are developing players in this fashion?  What college teams or MLS teams play this way?
not one !!! Crying or Very sad
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Post by The German 1/4/2015, 3:22 pm

And how many do it world wide?
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Post by omega striker 1/4/2015, 8:11 pm

The German wrote:And how many do it world wide?
well for sure 2 Razz
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