00 QT Scores

by Ibra 7/31/2010, 10:10 am

FCD Premier 5/Waco Blast 0

Wizards FC 6/Texas Blitz 0

by TxHunter 7/31/2010, 11:38 am

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by SoccerXXX 7/31/2010, 1:43 pm

Thoughts on the first matches? Looks like a few upsets.

by soccerdad1 7/31/2010, 5:02 pm

It appears bracket D is well balanced

by DadofDefense 7/31/2010, 5:07 pm

Agreed. Bracket D looked like the toughest bracket to call for me.

by GK2 7/31/2010, 5:25 pm

Does anyone know how week 2 rankings go? Is it based on total points 1-20 or does it depend on Ranking within your bracket??

by SoccerXXX 7/31/2010, 8:14 pm

Bracket G looks close as well.

by DadofDefense 7/31/2010, 8:30 pm

Sort of, but Bracket D is the only one where 3 teams could still (mathematically) win the bracket.

Most brackets look like the haves and the have nots.

by Guest 7/31/2010, 8:36 pm

Is the DT Gall team playing with 99 boys on there roster or are they just that good. Very impressive!

by The German 7/31/2010, 9:27 pm

mcc78 wrote:Is the DT Gall team playing with 99 boys on there roster or are they just that good. Very impressive!

They are that good but maybe the others are that bad.

by Ibra 7/31/2010, 9:42 pm

The German wrote:
mcc78 wrote:Is the DT Gall team playing with 99 boys on there roster or are they just that good. Very impressive!
They are that good but maybe the others are that bad.

Not sure that I would consider the run up of goals impressive.....nor would I be quoted about the quality of teams that I have no experience in following... Do you not pull back your talent at some point?

by soccer00 7/31/2010, 9:51 pm

Ibra wrote:
The German wrote:
mcc78 wrote:Is the DT Gall team playing with 99 boys on there roster or are they just that good. Very impressive!
They are that good but maybe the others are that bad.
Not sure that I would consider the run up of goals impressive.....nor would I be quoted about the quality of teams that I have no experience in following... Do you not pull back your talent at some point?

I agree. Our team wasn't in that bracket but I'm not at all impressed with the self-serving ego trip of putting in 13 or 15 goals against distinctly weaker teams. We get it, Gall, your boys can score. Where is the sportsmanship and life lesson that should come hand in hand with that God-given talent? The fact that he let those scores go to those numbers is kind of disgusting.

by indyfc 7/31/2010, 10:03 pm

soccerdad1 wrote:It appears bracket D is well balanced

Balanced, are you kidding me? More like an overrating of Solar Red. Yes they will probably come out tomorrow and win, but they are not a #4 seed. TFC Wells and Bandits should have been seeded higher than Solar Red and they are proving it with their scores. Solar Red was gift wrapped a high seed just because they are Solar and won Puma Cup. Outside of that, what have they ever done? Look at their records in SDL and tournaments against top 10 teams, its terrible.
Understand that groups are not setup in the first round to be "balanced". They are setup for the top 10 teams to qualify right away to D1.
Solar is top 10, but not a #4, and their performance in this group is proving it.

by The German 7/31/2010, 10:15 pm

soccer00 wrote:
Ibra wrote:
The German wrote:
mcc78 wrote:Is the DT Gall team playing with 99 boys on there roster or are they just that good. Very impressive!
They are that good but maybe the others are that bad.
Not sure that I would consider the run up of goals impressive.....nor would I be quoted about the quality of teams that I have no experience in following... Do you not pull back your talent at some point?

I agree. Our team wasn't in that bracket but I'm not at all impressed with the self-serving ego trip of putting in 13 or 15 goals against distinctly weaker teams. We get it, Gall, your boys can score. Where is the sportsmanship and life lesson that should come hand in hand with that God-given talent? The fact that he let those scores go to those numbers is kind of disgusting.

I have no kid playing for the Texans but what are they supposed to do? Play keep away? That might be even more frustrating to the other team to not touch the ball for 30 minutes and the first tiebreaker is goal differential, right?

by off_the_woodwork 7/31/2010, 10:22 pm

The German wrote:
soccer00 wrote:
Ibra wrote:
The German wrote:
mcc78 wrote:Is the DT Gall team playing with 99 boys on there roster or are they just that good. Very impressive!
They are that good but maybe the others are that bad.
Not sure that I would consider the run up of goals impressive.....nor would I be quoted about the quality of teams that I have no experience in following... Do you not pull back your talent at some point?

I agree. Our team wasn't in that bracket but I'm not at all impressed with the self-serving ego trip of putting in 13 or 15 goals against distinctly weaker teams. We get it, Gall, your boys can score. Where is the sportsmanship and life lesson that should come hand in hand with that God-given talent? The fact that he let those scores go to those numbers is kind of disgusting.
I have no kid playing for the Texans but what are they supposed to do? Play keep away? That might be even more frustrating to the other team to not touch the ball for 30 minutes and the first tiebreaker is goal differential, right?

The QT is set up to encourage these types of blowouts. Elite teams are placed into brackets with much lower seeded teams and the tiebreakers being goal differential (no limit) followed by goals scored (no limit). There is no mercy in the qualifying tournament - teams should know this before they shell out the $650 to enter. I think many have now as there are only 40 teams this year entered, and I'm guessing at least 20 teams that have formed and registered with NTSSA which are just going to Plano/Arllington without attempting the QT.

by Rightback 7/31/2010, 10:25 pm

The German wrote:
soccer00 wrote:
Ibra wrote:
The German wrote:
mcc78 wrote:Is the DT Gall team playing with 99 boys on there roster or are they just that good. Very impressive!
They are that good but maybe the others are that bad.
Not sure that I would consider the run up of goals impressive.....nor would I be quoted about the quality of teams that I have no experience in following... Do you not pull back your talent at some point?

I agree. Our team wasn't in that bracket but I'm not at all impressed with the self-serving ego trip of putting in 13 or 15 goals against distinctly weaker teams. We get it, Gall, your boys can score. Where is the sportsmanship and life lesson that should come hand in hand with that God-given talent? The fact that he let those scores go to those numbers is kind of disgusting.
I have no kid playing for the Texans but what are they supposed to do? Play keep away? That might be even more frustrating to the other team to not touch the ball for 30 minutes and the first tiebreaker is goal differential, right?

I hate running up the score but it is the difference maker and in some of the brackets will determine who wins and who stays home...we had fair warning that you run it up. And no, i am not with the Texans...just that we all knew this coming in

by go99 7/31/2010, 10:25 pm

Yes the german is right. This is QT and goals matter. Not that it will matter to the Gall team but last year QT had a team go down to PPL on goal diff. Besides academy is over. The most he should do is play his entire roster. If the other teams still cannot manage to keep them from scoring then so be it. BTW an impressive team and great coach but also indicative of the QT brackets. The top teams play the weakest teams.

by soccer00 7/31/2010, 10:28 pm

The German wrote:
soccer00 wrote:
Ibra wrote:
The German wrote:
mcc78 wrote:Is the DT Gall team playing with 99 boys on there roster or are they just that good. Very impressive!
They are that good but maybe the others are that bad.
Not sure that I would consider the run up of goals impressive.....nor would I be quoted about the quality of teams that I have no experience in following... Do you not pull back your talent at some point?

I agree. Our team wasn't in that bracket but I'm not at all impressed with the self-serving ego trip of putting in 13 or 15 goals against distinctly weaker teams. We get it, Gall, your boys can score. Where is the sportsmanship and life lesson that should come hand in hand with that God-given talent? The fact that he let those scores go to those numbers is kind of disgusting.
I have no kid playing for the Texans but what are they supposed to do? Play keep away? That might be even more frustrating to the other team to not touch the ball for 30 minutes and the first tiebreaker is goal differential, right?

I think that a safe goal differential was established somewhere before 10-0. If Gall played B team and moved boys around to try to keep from running up the score, then that's a different story. I just don't think there's any need to completely obliterate a team of 10 year olds. My guess is Gall has a chip on his shoulder about being seeded #2 behind FCD and was determined to take it out on his opponents and somehow stake his claim as the top team. Gall's parents were overheard leaving the complex and lamenting about " only getting 13 goals" in the second game. Yuck.

by Ibra 7/31/2010, 10:31 pm

go99 wrote:Yes the german is right. This is QT and goals matter. Not that it will matter to the Gall team but last year QT had a team go down to PPL on goal diff. Besides academy is over. The most he should do is play his entire roster. If the other teams still cannot manage to keep them from scoring then so be it. BTW an impressive team and great coach but also indicative of the QT brackets. The top teams play the weakest teams.

Seriously...worrying about a tie-breaker when your team is averaging 13points? You missed an opportunity to teach the boys something valuable...

by Middie 07 7/31/2010, 10:33 pm

indyfc wrote:
soccerdad1 wrote:It appears bracket D is well balanced
Balanced, are you kidding me? More like an overrating of Solar Red. Yes they will probably come out tomorrow and win, but they are not a #4 seed. TFC Wells and Bandits should have been seeded higher than Solar Red and they are proving it with their scores. Solar Red was gift wrapped a high seed just because they are Solar and won Puma Cup. Outside of that, what have they ever done? Look at their records in SDL and tournaments against top 10 teams, its terrible.
Understand that groups are not setup in the first round to be "balanced". They are setup for the top 10 teams to qualify right away to D1.
Solar is top 10, but not a #4, and their performance in this group is proving it.

They may wish to be careful tomorrow AM or they will also have to play again next week. I heard Strikers scored 3 goals after the last water break to win the afternoon game 3-2 against a team Solar Red managed a single goal against in the AM. As for the rest of D-bracket, Odyssey did well in PAL Gold, beating or tying Tigres & FCD East in the spring and yet they are shown in a tie w/ Strikers. Liverpool, as the bottom seed, probably beats all the other bottom seeds.

by indyfc 7/31/2010, 10:50 pm

Ibra wrote:
go99 wrote:Yes the german is right. This is QT and goals matter. Not that it will matter to the Gall team but last year QT had a team go down to PPL on goal diff. Besides academy is over. The most he should do is play his entire roster. If the other teams still cannot manage to keep them from scoring then so be it. BTW an impressive team and great coach but also indicative of the QT brackets. The top teams play the weakest teams.
Seriously...worrying about a tie-breaker when your team is averaging 13points? You missed an opportunity to teach the boys something valuable...

Ibra, I disagree with you. You and a couple others on here upset with these scores are missing the point of what people are trying to tell you about this tournament. If this was any other tournament or league game I would agree with you, but in this qualifier every coach tells their team to go out an score as many goals as possible. It has nothing to do with sportsmanship or what kids are being taught or not taught, it has to do with putting your team in the best possible position to qualify the first weekend and make a statement that they deserve the seeding they got.

Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, kids have been playing academy for two years to get to this day. It is unfair for you to ask any coach to not go all out.

Yes it may hurt the kids who are on the short end, but if their coach didn't prepare them to face this kind of adversity, then who really missed the opportunity to teach their kids something?

by The German 7/31/2010, 10:56 pm

It's only fair to all teams if you try to play full in each game. There are several brackets were the goal differential might decide to go to Plano or play again next weekend.

by go99 7/31/2010, 11:48 pm

tighten up your pampers boys, welcome to big boy soccer. Nobody is going to pull a team off of you. 00 QT Scores Icon_sad

Wipe those tears and get ready to bring it next weekend.

by lafayette1010 8/1/2010, 12:46 am

I saw the DT Gall games today and they did NOT play their full squad the entire game. They played their defenders forward, moved their goalkeeper to midfield. I don't think that they played short any players, which might have been fair, but which wouldn't have been right. They just played... and the other team couldn't stop them. I felt bad watching.

by mrclean 8/1/2010, 8:33 am

Goal differential matters, so you have to be prepared to play a full game. I don't mind having the score ran up on me as long as the players aren't laughing, putting down players, etc. At age 11, it's a tough experience though.

Sometimes spreading the field and playing keep away is even more humiliating as it usually causes the other team to simply quit. At 8-0, I tell my players to shoot with the left foot unless they are left footed. Any thing else sometimes embarasses the team even more. My first year as a coach, I told my players no more goals. A forward had a breakaway and the keeper came out and challenged but missed. He stopped in front of the goal, looked at me then dribbled away from the goal and kicked it out. It embarrased the other team and made the coach even angrier. You just never know what is best and a lot of teams don't think to talk about what to do in a mismatch.