Re: Classic Qualifiers Bracketology

by Axxman 7/31/2009, 11:05 am

They beat a bunch of teams in the Puma tourny, but it was the silver division.

by 99srule 7/31/2009, 11:52 am

FCD South
omplete Game History
Date Opponent Score
ASG Adidas Invitational
6/7/2009 TXGUNNERS 99B (TXN) 1-3
6/6/2009 ASG FUTBOL ASG '99 BOYS RED WEST (TXN) 6-0
6/6/2009 TXGUNNERS 99B (TXN) 0-2
6/5/2009 J.C.TITANS (TXN) 4-0
2009 North America Memorial Day Cup
5/24/2009 FORT WORTH FC 99B WHITE (TXN) 0-1
5/23/2009 FCDY ACADEMY 99B(SUAREZ) (TXN) 0-1
5/22/2009 DALLAS TEXANS ACADEMY 99B RED SOUTH (HERNANDEZ) (TXN) 2-3
ASA/JATO 4th Annual College Showcase
12/14/2008 COMETS BLUE (TXN) 2-1
12/14/2008 DALLAS TEXANS '99 DALLAS TEXANS (TXN) 2-0
12/13/2008 MANSFIELD WILDCATS '99 BOYS WILDCATS (TXN) 7-1
12/13/2008 CLASSIC CLUB CLASSIC 99B ORANGE (TXN) 2-1
KICK OFF CLASSIC
8/16/2008 OAK CLIFF FC 99 BOYS (TXN) 0-2
8/16/2008 FORT WORTH FC 99BR (TXN) 5-0
8/16/2008 DALLAS TEXANS SOUTH 99 HERNANDEZ (USA) 0-4
«

by 99srule 7/31/2009, 11:57 am

Trying to find tournament data for Andromeda Red - did you guys play in any tournaments? You must have to be seeded so high, I just can't find it.

by 99srule 7/31/2009, 12:00 pm

FCD Suarez
Complete Game History
Date Opponent Score
ASG Adidas Invitational
6/7/2009 O.C.S.A OAK CLIFF FC RED (TXN) 0-1
6/7/2009 NORTH OKLAHOMA CITY FC NOKC 99 BRAZIL (OK) 4-0
6/6/2009 PUMAS ELITE SC - 99 (TXN) 3-1
6/6/2009 FC DALLAS FCDALLAS99 EAST (TXN) 2-0
6/5/2009 ATLETICO MADRID FC (TXN) 3-1
2009 North America Memorial Day Cup
5/25/2009 SOLAR 99B RED (PASSOS) (TXN) 0-1
5/24/2009 ASG 99B GOLD NORTH (TXN) 3-1
5/24/2009 DALLAS TEXANS ACADEMY 99B RED SOUTH (HERNANDEZ) (TXN) 1-2
5/23/2009 FCDY ACADEMY 99B SOUTH (TXN) 1-0
5/23/2009 FORT WORTH FC 99B WHITE (TXN) 2-0
Legacy Freedom Cup 2009
2/8/2009 BARCELONA SC 99 (TXN) 2-0
2/8/2009 ASG 99 GOLD NORTH (TXN) 1-3
2/7/2009 ATLETICO MADRID FC (TXN) 2-1
2/7/2009 FC DALLAS 99 (TXN) 6-0
2/6/2009 BARCELONA SC 99 (TXN) 2-2

by CLUB31 7/31/2009, 12:15 pm

Where is OCSA Oak Cliff fc red? and where did all of their players go?

by 99srule 7/31/2009, 12:23 pm

are they the Chivas?

by socmom3 7/31/2009, 12:24 pm

CLUB31 wrote:Where is OCSA Oak Cliff fc red? and where did all of their players go?

They are now CD Chivas '99B

by Speedy Gonzales 7/31/2009, 12:33 pm

99srule wrote:FCD Suarez
Complete Game History
Date Opponent Score
ASG Adidas Invitational
6/7/2009 O.C.S.A OAK CLIFF FC RED (TXN) 0-1
6/7/2009 NORTH OKLAHOMA CITY FC NOKC 99 BRAZIL (OK) 4-0
6/6/2009 PUMAS ELITE SC - 99 (TXN) 3-1
6/6/2009 FC DALLAS FCDALLAS99 EAST (TXN) 2-0
6/5/2009 ATLETICO MADRID FC (TXN) 3-1
2009 North America Memorial Day Cup
5/25/2009 SOLAR 99B RED (PASSOS) (TXN) 0-1
5/24/2009 ASG 99B GOLD NORTH (TXN) 3-1
5/24/2009 DALLAS TEXANS ACADEMY 99B RED SOUTH (HERNANDEZ) (TXN) 1-2
5/23/2009 FCDY ACADEMY 99B SOUTH (TXN) 1-0
5/23/2009 FORT WORTH FC 99B WHITE (TXN) 2-0
Legacy Freedom Cup 2009
2/8/2009 BARCELONA SC 99 (TXN) 2-0
2/8/2009 ASG 99 GOLD NORTH (TXN) 1-3
2/7/2009 ATLETICO MADRID FC (TXN) 2-1
2/7/2009 FC DALLAS 99 (TXN) 6-0
2/6/2009 BARCELONA SC 99 (TXN) 2-2

Not a "complete game history"--didn't they also play int he Puma? How did those games come out?

by CLUB31 7/31/2009, 12:40 pm

Chivas win that bracket

by afrankw 7/31/2009, 12:51 pm

Speedy Gonzales wrote:
99srule wrote:FCD Suarez
Complete Game History
Date Opponent Score
ASG Adidas Invitational
6/7/2009 O.C.S.A OAK CLIFF FC RED (TXN) 0-1
6/7/2009 NORTH OKLAHOMA CITY FC NOKC 99 BRAZIL (OK) 4-0
6/6/2009 PUMAS ELITE SC - 99 (TXN) 3-1
6/6/2009 FC DALLAS FCDALLAS99 EAST (TXN) 2-0
6/5/2009 ATLETICO MADRID FC (TXN) 3-1
2009 North America Memorial Day Cup
5/25/2009 SOLAR 99B RED (PASSOS) (TXN) 0-1
5/24/2009 ASG 99B GOLD NORTH (TXN) 3-1
5/24/2009 DALLAS TEXANS ACADEMY 99B RED SOUTH (HERNANDEZ) (TXN) 1-2
5/23/2009 FCDY ACADEMY 99B SOUTH (TXN) 1-0
5/23/2009 FORT WORTH FC 99B WHITE (TXN) 2-0
Legacy Freedom Cup 2009
2/8/2009 BARCELONA SC 99 (TXN) 2-0
2/8/2009 ASG 99 GOLD NORTH (TXN) 1-3
2/7/2009 ATLETICO MADRID FC (TXN) 2-1
2/7/2009 FC DALLAS 99 (TXN) 6-0
2/6/2009 BARCELONA SC 99 (TXN) 2-2
Not a "complete game history"--didn't they also play int he Puma? How did those games come out?

I would not bet against them. I watched most of the game against Chivas in the Puma Cup and they could have and should have won that game. The tied FW Cates and beat Tyler Azzurri. So they beat the 9 seed, tied the 10 seed and lost to the 11 seed in this tournament, they are still a good number one seed.

by 2good4u 7/31/2009, 1:30 pm

this is puma cup:
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Team	Wins	Losses	Ties	Points	ShutOuts	GDif	Goals (points)	Total Goals	Total Gives
B3 - SOLAR 99 - CRAWFORD	2	0	1	21	1	2	5	5	3
C3 - TYLER AZZURRI 99B NAPOLI - SCHUBERT	1	1	1	15	1	0	5	5	5
B2 - FC DALLAS YOUTH 99B (SUAREZ) - SUAREZ	1	1	1	13	1	0	3	3	3
C1 - FORT WORHT FC 99 WHITE - CATES	1	1	1	12	1	0	2	2	2
C2 - CD CHIVAS RED - JAQUEZ	1	2	0	10	1	-3	3	3	6
B1 - ASG 99B GOLD NORTH - NGON	1	2	0	10	0	1	4	5

by Axxman 7/31/2009, 1:55 pm

99s; So it looks like FCDS beat nobody decent in 2009. Except for a few recent wins in the Puma Silver division, you are betting they upset Andro? Sure you're not making the call with your heart rather than upstairs?

by rip 7/31/2009, 3:17 pm

ANDROMEDA GENTILE
ANDROMEDA RED BAZAN
ASG GOLD NORTH NGON
ATLETICO MADRID LOPEZ
BARCELONA SC GARCIA
CD CHIVAS DALLAS JAQUEZ
CLUB CLASSIC ORANGE WILCO
COMETS BLUE BADII
DALLAS TEXANS CRAFT
DALLAS TEXANS RED CONNELL
DALLAS TEXANS SOUTH HERNANDEZ
DFW TEJANOS BARROW
FC DALLAS BLUE RHINE
FC DALLAS GOLD FIGUEROA
FC DALLAS SOUTH SAAVEDRA
FC DALLAS SUAREZ
FC FORCE BLACK BILY
FORT WORTH FC WHITE CATES
LIVERPOOL FC KEEGAN WARDROBE
OC WIZARDS BURCIAGA
SOLAR CRAWFORD
SOLAR RED PASSOS
TEXAS GUNNERS MADDOX
TEXAS TITANS DALLAS VELEZ
TYLER AZZURRI NAPOLI SCHUBERT

by CLUB31 7/31/2009, 3:30 pm

Andromena Gentile, DFW Tejanoes, ClubClassic Orange

by Axxman 7/31/2009, 3:34 pm

Add to that FC Force and Liverpool.
Why isn't DTS Red on your list?

by rip 7/31/2009, 4:00 pm

Axxman wrote:Add to that FC Force and Liverpool.
Why isn't DTS Red on your list?

I grabbed all the teams I thought would finish in the top2 in their groups, and then 5 others. They probably have as good a chance as a Liverpool or FCD Gold. Looking back, they would have been the next on this list.

by afrankw 7/31/2009, 4:07 pm

rip wrote:
Axxman wrote:Add to that FC Force and Liverpool.
Why isn't DTS Red on your list?
I grabbed all the teams I thought would finish in the top2 in their groups, and then 5 others. They probably have as good a chance as a Liverpool or FCD Gold. Looking back, they would have been the next on this list.

Neat list. Another good list would be taking the 23 other teams and saying which 5+ of those teams is going to make it. Since your list is only 25 and we are removing from it we would need to fill in from the other 23.

by rip 7/31/2009, 4:13 pm

afrankw wrote:
rip wrote:
Axxman wrote:Add to that FC Force and Liverpool.
Why isn't DTS Red on your list?
I grabbed all the teams I thought would finish in the top2 in their groups, and then 5 others. They probably have as good a chance as a Liverpool or FCD Gold. Looking back, they would have been the next on this list.

Neat list. Another good list would be taking the 23 other teams and saying which 5+ of those teams is going to make it. Since your list is only 25 and we are removing from it we would need to fill in from the other 23.

Actually I was just talking about D1, but I get the drift.

I think picking D2 is so much harder, though. Its one thing to speculate based on how well you think a team can perform, but entirely another to try and gauge how a bad a team won't play.

by Axxman 7/31/2009, 4:14 pm

Rip, very nice, I like!

by rip 7/31/2009, 4:14 pm

rip wrote:
afrankw wrote:
rip wrote:
Axxman wrote:Add to that FC Force and Liverpool.
Why isn't DTS Red on your list?
I grabbed all the teams I thought would finish in the top2 in their groups, and then 5 others. They probably have as good a chance as a Liverpool or FCD Gold. Looking back, they would have been the next on this list.

Neat list. Another good list would be taking the 23 other teams and saying which 5+ of those teams is going to make it. Since your list is only 25 and we are removing from it we would need to fill in from the other 23.
Actually I was just talking about D1, but I get the drift.

I think picking D2 is so much harder, though. Its one thing to speculate based on how well you think a team can perform, but entirely another to try and gauge how a bad a team won't play.

Picking for D2 is like filling out your NIT bracket Basketball

by afrankw 7/31/2009, 4:16 pm

rip wrote:
rip wrote:
afrankw wrote:
rip wrote:
Axxman wrote:Add to that FC Force and Liverpool.
Why isn't DTS Red on your list?
I grabbed all the teams I thought would finish in the top2 in their groups, and then 5 others. They probably have as good a chance as a Liverpool or FCD Gold. Looking back, they would have been the next on this list.

Neat list. Another good list would be taking the 23 other teams and saying which 5+ of those teams is going to make it. Since your list is only 25 and we are removing from it we would need to fill in from the other 23.
Actually I was just talking about D1, but I get the drift.

I think picking D2 is so much harder, though. Its one thing to speculate based on how well you think a team can perform, but entirely another to try and gauge how a bad a team won't play.
Picking for D2 is like filling out your NIT bracket

I should have read the entire subject, sometimes I am like a 10 year old. Just like my wife tells me.

by 99srule 7/31/2009, 4:18 pm

Axxman wrote:99s; So it looks like FCDS beat nobody decent in 2009. Except for a few recent wins in the Puma Silver division, you are betting they upset Andro? Sure you're not making the call with your heart rather than upstairs?

like I said before, looking for the potential upsets.

The top two brackets won't see an upset, Texans and Solar Red too strong and the competition to weak.

Third bracket should be DTS easily, but Copa has a history of being hard to score on and getting ties. Even if they tie, DTS will outscore the competition more than Copa will.

Fourth bracket is most likely Solar because there is not much competition.

Fifth bracket has a good team that has not played much (Andro) and a team that has played a lot of tough close games (FCD South) - this is a good scenario for an upset. Who will be more hungry? Who will come in over confident?

Sixth bracket should be an easy win for FCD, however, they tend to not show up in the big games - this is a good scenario for an upset like the last tournament.

Seventh bracket is most likely ASG because there is not much competition.

Bracket eight should be a good one, can go either to the Gunners or Comets - good scenario for an upset of the top seed.

Ninth bracket is pretty unexciting - Tyler kind of an unknown and Texans II - could be an upset that really doesn't matter.

Tenth and final bracket is a good one - top seed is very inconsistent - greatest possibility of an upset.

That was the thinking. Not looking to wager - trying to find the upsets that people say happen every year.

by 2good4u 7/31/2009, 4:21 pm

IMO:
<LI>~~ANDROMEDA GENTILE~~

<LI>ANDROMEDA RED BAZAN
<LI>ASG GOLD NORTH NGON
<LI>ATLETICO MADRID LOPEZ
<LI>BARCELONA SC GARCIA
<LI>CD CHIVAS DALLAS JAQUEZ
<LI>~~CLUB CLASSIC ORANGE WILCO~~

<LI>COMETS BLUE BADII
<LI>DALLAS TEXANS CRAFT
<LI>DALLAS TEXANS RED CONNELL
<LI>DALLAS TEXANS SOUTH HERNANDEZ
<LI>~~DFW TEJANOS BARROW~~

<LI>FC DALLAS BLUE RHINE
<LI>~~FC DALLAS GOLD FIGUEROA~~
<LI>FC DALLAS SOUTH SAAVEDRA
<LI>FC DALLAS SUAREZ
<LI>FC FORCE BLACK BILY
<LI>FORT WORTH FC WHITE CATES
<LI>LIVERPOOL FC KEEGAN WARDROBE
<LI>~~OC WIZARDS BURCIAGA~~

<LI>SOLAR CRAWFORD
<LI>SOLAR RED PASSOS
<LI>TEXAS GUNNERS MADDOX
<LI>TEXAS TITANS DALLAS VELEZ
TYLER AZZURRI NAPOLI SCHUBERT

It's just IMO ok, don't want to make anybody upset...LOL Wink

</LI>

by Axxman 7/31/2009, 4:26 pm

Ok, understand the thought process and I can understand the thinking on Andro Red. We have not played many tournies for sure, so not a big track record in the last two or three months. We haven't been around much as the whole team was doing a world tour this summer playing the best from South America, Europe, Africa, etc. Hopefully they are not too over-confident tomorrow. Good luck all, this is what we've been waiting for!

by NorthTXWildcat 7/31/2009, 5:20 pm

99srule wrote:
Axxman wrote:99s; So it looks like FCDS beat nobody decent in 2009. Except for a few recent wins in the Puma Silver division, you are betting they upset Andro? Sure you're not making the call with your heart rather than upstairs?

like I said before, looking for the potential upsets.

The top two brackets won't see an upset, Texans and Solar Red too strong and the competition to weak.

Third bracket should be DTS easily, but Copa has a history of being hard to score on and getting ties. Even if they tie, DTS will outscore the competition more than Copa will.

Fourth bracket is most likely Solar because there is not much competition.

Fifth bracket has a good team that has not played much (Andro) and a team that has played a lot of tough close games (FCD South) - this is a good scenario for an upset. Who will be more hungry? Who will come in over confident?

Sixth bracket should be an easy win for FCD, however, they tend to not show up in the big games - this is a good scenario for an upset like the last tournament.

Seventh bracket is most likely ASG because there is not much competition.

Bracket eight should be a good one, can go either to the Gunners or Comets - good scenario for an upset of the top seed.

Ninth bracket is pretty unexciting - Tyler kind of an unknown and Texans II - could be an upset that really doesn't matter.

Tenth and final bracket is a good one - top seed is very inconsistent - greatest possibility of an upset.

That was the thinking. Not looking to wager - trying to find the upsets that people say happen every year.

by omega striker 7/31/2009, 6:14 pm

NorthTXWildcat wrote:
99srule wrote:
Axxman wrote:99s; So it looks like FCDS beat nobody decent in 2009. Except for a few recent wins in the Puma Silver division, you are betting they upset Andro? Sure you're not making the call with your heart rather than upstairs?

like I said before, looking for the potential upsets.

The top two brackets won't see an upset, Texans and Solar Red too strong and the competition to weak.

Third bracket should be DTS easily, but Copa has a history of being hard to score on and getting ties. Even if they tie, DTS will outscore the competition more than Copa will.

Fourth bracket is most likely Solar because there is not much competition.

Fifth bracket has a good team that has not played much (Andro) and a team that has played a lot of tough close games (FCD South) - this is a good scenario for an upset. Who will be more hungry? Who will come in over confident?

Sixth bracket should be an easy win for FCD, however, they tend to not show up in the big games - this is a good scenario for an upset like the last tournament.

Seventh bracket is most likely ASG because there is not much competition.

Bracket eight should be a good one, can go either to the Gunners or Comets - good scenario for an upset of the top seed.

Ninth bracket is pretty unexciting - Tyler kind of an unknown and Texans II - could be an upset that really doesn't matter.

Tenth and final bracket is a good one - top seed is very inconsistent - greatest possibility of an upset.

That was the thinking. Not looking to wager - trying to find the upsets that people say happen every year.

good luck to all the boys!
I think i bracket H you can't leave out Texas Titans(formerly FCD) velez! also bracket j will go to either Barcelona or Chivas but FWFC and even FCD central(who play great in spurts) can make it interesting!
I think Andro red will win but FCD south will give a great fight!

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