Re: 99 Pre academy

by Laimport 8/10/2012, 12:48 pm

That's pretty much what i meant. The majority are going to go the college route.

Maybe 1 oe 2 players in a good year will go to the first team.

by Soccerinsanity 8/10/2012, 2:47 pm

And apparently 20 of them won't be heading to Duke or North Carolina if that other rumor is true!

by Axxman 8/10/2012, 2:53 pm

That rumor is false. It was a couple kids and one got kicked off for bad grades.

And as for your comment, not so sure that would be the case. I know many athletes playing college sports at top schools that couldn't pass English/Math 101, etc. But somehow they get by....hmmmm.

by my2cents 8/10/2012, 4:00 pm

Axxman wrote:That rumor is false. It was a couple kids and one got kicked off for bad grades.

And as for your comment, not so sure that would be the case. I know many athletes playing college sports at top schools that couldn't pass English/Math 101, etc. But somehow they get by....hmmmm.

Hmmm, that is interesting because I know of some that told "not interested" by D3 or junior colleges because of poor, not failing, grades. So are you saying that all the posters on here, HS and club coaches, and the people who give seminars are wrong about needing good grades to play college soccer. These athletes failed courses but played anyway?

by Axxman 8/10/2012, 4:14 pm

my2cents wrote:
Axxman wrote:That rumor is false. It was a couple kids and one got kicked off for bad grades.

And as for your comment, not so sure that would be the case. I know many athletes playing college sports at top schools that couldn't pass English/Math 101, etc. But somehow they get by....hmmmm.

Hmmm, that is interesting because I know of some that told "not interested" by D3 or junior colleges because of poor, not failing, grades. So are you saying that all the posters on here, HS and club coaches, and the people who give seminars are wrong about needing good grades to play college soccer. These athletes failed courses but played anyway?

They probably weren't good enough. If a player is good enough and a college wants him, they can make miracles happen.

by go99 8/10/2012, 4:26 pm

I think that applies to football and basketball. The amount of money they bring into the university gives them pull with admissions. Not sure the same applies to soccer

by my2cents 8/10/2012, 5:24 pm

It may give them pull with admissions but it gives them squat with tenured professors. I guarantee that coaches in any sport do not want to waste scholarship money on a player that may not even be able to maintain eligibility. Many times they will ship the studs off to prep school to improve their study habits and test scores. The private schools in New England bring ringers like that in all the time for football and basketball.

by getafe01 8/10/2012, 6:25 pm

my2cents wrote:It may give them pull with admissions but it gives them squat with tenured professors. I guarantee that coaches in any sport do not want to waste scholarship money on a player that may not even be able to maintain eligibility. Many times they will ship the studs off to prep school to improve their study habits and test scores. The private schools in New England bring ringers like that in all the time for football and basketball.

key words. and, as go writes, soccer does not have the same pull. at the top schools it is about academics

by omega striker 8/10/2012, 6:49 pm

Axxman wrote:That rumor is false. It was a couple kids and one got kicked off for bad grades.

And as for your comment, not so sure that would be the case. I know many athletes playing college sports at top schools that couldn't pass English/Math 101, etc. But somehow they get by....hmmmm.

Im being told at one point 24 of the kids were failing but in the end i think it was only 2 who failed but NOT one got kicked off Suspect

by plantit 8/10/2012, 8:42 pm

Laimport wrote:That's pretty much what i meant. The majority are going to go the college route.

Maybe 1 oe 2 players in a good year will go to the first team.

Oh gosh oh jolly gee. 1ST team? What,, so I can yank down a Whoppin 40K a year . A waitress at I HOP makes that . Give me the 250k education.

by go99 8/10/2012, 8:55 pm

average salary of a college grad is $52k.

by plantit 8/10/2012, 9:15 pm

go99 wrote:average salary of a college grad is $52k.

zackley. Who needs college?

by crazyET 8/10/2012, 9:23 pm

But that $50k only goes up after that and lasts a lot longer than the average MLS players stay in the league. Once an FCD player's career is spent (if it ever got off the ground), what's next since he chose to bypass college based on promises of superstardom by a used car salesman?

by plantit 8/10/2012, 9:26 pm

crazyET wrote:But that $50k only goes up after that and lasts a lot longer than the average MLS players stay in the league. Once an FCD player's career is spent (if it ever got off the ground), what's next since he chose to bypass college based on promises of superstardom by a used car salesman?

Coaching? If soccer is all they know.

by my2cents 8/10/2012, 10:41 pm

crazyET wrote:But that $50k only goes up after that and lasts a lot longer than the average MLS players stay in the league. Once an FCD player's career is spent (if it ever got off the ground), what's next since he chose to bypass college based on promises of superstardom by a used car salesman?

Is that what it is all about? the bottom line? You are right , I agree, to a point. But...., are you really going to try to convince a young man to walk away from his dream for the 401K he could have at 65? Most of them will have learned the value of hard work and dedication which will serve them well after a pro career ends,even if it is brief.

by omega striker 8/10/2012, 11:20 pm

crazyET wrote:But that $50k only goes up after that and lasts a lot longer than the average MLS players stay in the league. Once an FCD player's career is spent (if it ever got off the ground), what's next since he chose to bypass college based on promises of superstardom by a used car salesman?

and not any coaching job but a coach in ntx and hes set! lol!

by plantit 8/10/2012, 11:22 pm

my2cents wrote:
crazyET wrote:But that $50k only goes up after that and lasts a lot longer than the average MLS players stay in the league. Once an FCD player's career is spent (if it ever got off the ground), what's next since he chose to bypass college based on promises of superstardom by a used car salesman?

Is that what it is all about? the bottom line? You are right , I agree, to a point. But...., are you really going to try to convince a young man to walk away from his dream for the 401K he could have at 65? Most of them will have learned the value of hard work and dedication which will serve them well after a pro career ends,even if it is brief.

Seriously? Can a 12 year old form a dream? or is it the parents ? Tiger woods realized a dream but ask him what he missed out on getting there . Thats the point , he's one out of 500,000 + that got there . 499,999 didn't and still pissed away the greater part of their youth most likely trying to please their parents for what the parents convinced them was their dream. Agree that alot of valuable lessons can be learned along the way and being involved in high end sports should promote a fitness life style that will benefit your kids throughout life .

2 cents --- when you use the word PRO CAREER you are throwing out a word that may apply to .000001 % of all the players that play. That to me isn't a dream, it's fantasy. The term is thrown around on this forum like it's the norm . When many are forgoing academics to chase their dream , in my opinion it's foolishness. do the clubs even care ? Hell no . always more pigions for the cat. Thats where a stable voice of reason comes in and says you may want to consider a back up plan.

by my2cents 8/11/2012, 7:59 am

plantit wrote:
my2cents wrote:
crazyET wrote:But that $50k only goes up after that and lasts a lot longer than the average MLS players stay in the league. Once an FCD player's career is spent (if it ever got off the ground), what's next since he chose to bypass college based on promises of superstardom by a used car salesman?

Is that what it is all about? the bottom line? You are right , I agree, to a point. But...., are you really going to try to convince a young man to walk away from his dream for the 401K he could have at 65? Most of them will have learned the value of hard work and dedication which will serve them well after a pro career ends,even if it is brief.

Seriously? Can a 12 year old form a dream? or is it the parents ? Tiger woods realized a dream but ask him what he missed out on getting there . Thats the point , he's one out of 500,000 + that got there . 499,999 didn't and still pissed away the greater part of their youth most likely trying to please their parents for what the parents convinced them was their dream. Agree that alot of valuable lessons can be learned along the way and being involved in high end sports should promote a fitness life style that will benefit your kids throughout life .

2 cents --- when you use the word PRO CAREER you are throwing out a word that may apply to .000001 % of all the players that play. That to me isn't a dream, it's fantasy. The term is thrown around on this forum like it's the norm . When many are forgoing academics to chase their dream , in my opinion it's foolishness. do the clubs even care ? Hell no . always more pigions for the cat. Thats where a stable voice of reason comes in and says you may want to consider a back up plan.

Did not know they were offering contracts to 12 years olds. Thought we were talking about an 18 or 18 or 19 year old who has been all the way through the system, has good grades great propects. Then after doing all the right stuff he has the choice of school or a shot at pro, as in a contract offer. That is living the dream, taking a shot. We would say from life experience that the long term prospect of the college degree is the wiser choice but it is an unrealistic expectation to have of an athlete who has dreamed of being a pro his whole life

by getafe01 8/11/2012, 9:22 am

plantit wrote:
my2cents wrote:
crazyET wrote:But that $50k only goes up after that and lasts a lot longer than the average MLS players stay in the league. Once an FCD player's career is spent (if it ever got off the ground), what's next since he chose to bypass college based on promises of superstardom by a used car salesman?

Is that what it is all about? the bottom line? You are right , I agree, to a point. But...., are you really going to try to convince a young man to walk away from his dream for the 401K he could have at 65? Most of them will have learned the value of hard work and dedication which will serve them well after a pro career ends,even if it is brief.

Seriously? Can a 12 year old form a dream? or is it the parents ? Tiger woods realized a dream but ask him what he missed out on getting there . Thats the point , he's one out of 500,000 + that got there . 499,999 didn't and still pissed away the greater part of their youth most likely trying to please their parents for what the parents convinced them was their dream. Agree that alot of valuable lessons can be learned along the way and being involved in high end sports should promote a fitness life style that will benefit your kids throughout life .

2 cents --- when you use the word PRO CAREER you are throwing out a word that may apply to .000001 % of all the players that play. That to me isn't a dream, it's fantasy. The term is thrown around on this forum like it's the norm . When many are forgoing academics to chase their dream , in my opinion it's foolishness. do the clubs even care ? Hell no . always more pigions for the cat. Thats where a stable voice of reason comes in and says you may want to consider a back up plan.

+1

by Axxman 10/14/2012, 9:22 pm

Soccerinsanity wrote:Just what I've seen and heard

Hey Soccerinsanity, guess you're not much of a scout :lol.

by go99 10/14/2012, 10:57 pm

a 12 yr old can form a dream because a 5 yr old can. What do you want to be when you grow up? I want to be a fireman, football player, rock star, but I guess now it's I want to be a middle manager with a 401k plan. Parents don't make kids dreams they kill them. There is no need to tell a kid he can't be a pre soccer player, reality will tell him. Your point about tiger is well taken. He is 1 in a million but if everyone took your philosophy then there would be no tiger because he would have never even tried. Everyone here has the cowards way out. don't shoot for your dreams because you will fail. BTW go to college for engineering, Doctor, maybe an accountant forget what you like otherwise those six figure jobs everyone keeps promising you will not exist and all you are stuck with is a mountain of debt. Oh and if a kid hears you and gives a damn what you or his parents think about his playing pro then he doesn't have the drive, determination and focus to make it that far anyway. There are more athletes than there are pro's because most of us do not have the will, focus, drive or determination to push it that far. We prefer the well worn well proven path.

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