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Post by Soccertoughness 3/5/2013, 4:56 pm

North Texas has been blessed with an excellent pool of players. The area is growing and the competition is only getting better. In order to get better you need to practice. The practice can be in your back yard, with your team or with one of many choices in the area.
Currently, FC Dallas, Dallas Texans, City Futsal, Soccer Dynamics have taken the torch to create a more extensive approach. Each have it's strong points to each program. As time goes by I foresee more clubs creating more extensive programs and improving the level of competition. In the end it is a win win for the area. The level improves and everyone wins. Some may argue that practicing in your backyard would yield similar results. Does anyone want to share their experience and thoughts on the subject. In the end their is no right answer, each child responds differently to different environments. What works for one might not work for another.

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Dallas Texans residency

City Futsal developmental soccer program

Soccer dynamics program

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Post by heyyouguys 3/6/2013, 9:54 am

We've thought long and hard about residency programs, and we opted out this last year because our son found quite a fondness for track, and so it would be simply too much training. But, I also worry a lot about overuse injuries, especially because for most residency kids, two a week club practices, plus saturday AND sunday games is the norm. Has anyone had nagging, chronic pains that seem to persist and the kids just play through it instead of taking time off? Are training related injuries common?

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Post by Laimport 3/6/2013, 6:28 pm

heyyouguys wrote:We've thought long and hard about residency programs, and we opted out this last year because our son found quite a fondness for track, and so it would be simply too much training. But, I also worry a lot about overuse injuries, especially because for most residency kids, two a week club practices, plus saturday AND sunday games is the norm. Has anyone had nagging, chronic pains that seem to persist and the kids just play through it instead of taking time off? Are training related injuries common?

What? I would think a kid in 'residency' (whatever that means) is training 4-5 days a week. By the way, as a former track athlete, that is a daily thing as well.

'Overuse' injuries tend to be a uniquely American phenomenon. You rarely hear of it happening elsewhere. If you are a footballer with a sound training program, one would think that there is a balance between technical, tactical and physical training.

There is a time to give players a break...but it isn't 3-4 days a week. It's more like 4-5 weeks a year.

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Post by go99 3/7/2013, 8:38 am

actually american kids are genetically inferior to other kids around the world. they easily get overuse injuries. 2 to 3 day tops and definitely no more than half the year at a time. Also 100 spf sunblock, hand sanitizer, and bottle water only please.
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Post by Real Barcelona 3/7/2013, 12:48 pm

go99 wrote:actually american kids are genetically inferior to other kids around the world. they easily get overuse injuries. 2 to 3 day tops and definitely no more than half the year at a time. Also 100 spf sunblock, hand sanitizer, and bottle water only please.
I think that NTX soccer as a whole has what it deserves. For those few who can see beyond their noses, it is clear. The majority are happy with the product and will pay 2500 per year to have their kid train twice a week with games on the weekend. The coaches are even happier with the status quo since that way they can cash in more $$$ by coaching more teams. Some coaches will even promote the overuse pitch and or the "the culture is not ready to practice more than twice a week" (from personal experience). Ergo long live status quo!

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Post by heyyouguys 3/7/2013, 1:01 pm

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What? I would think a kid in 'residency' (whatever that means) is training 4-5 days a week. By the way, as a former track athlete, that is a daily thing as well.

'Overuse' injuries tend to be a uniquely American phenomenon. You rarely hear of it happening elsewhere. If you are a footballer with a sound training program, one would think that there is a balance between technical, tactical and physical training.

There is a time to give players a break...but it isn't 3-4 days a week. It's more like 4-5 weeks a year.

I should clarify, I meant 4 residency sessions (2 to 3 hours at most places), plus 2x2 hour club practices, plus Saturday game/warmup, plus ODP/DA/pickup sessions. I think training 4 days a week is perfectly fine, that gives you 1-2 days off a week to recover. But, residency PLUS club practices creates days where kids are training for 4+ hours a day, probably two days a week, hence the question I pose. Including residency/club practices/extra sessions, have any parents currently in residency programs seen any wear and tear like osgood schlatters, jumpers knee, shin splints, etc. that they think is related to cramming in too much training with too little downtime. Do club coaches work with residency kids to make sure they are taking it a little easy on them if theyve had a really hard residency session and are wore out?

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Post by Soccerinsanity 3/7/2013, 1:08 pm

I'm confused....

Do parents see residency kids? Do residency kids also play club...thought it was all one in the same! pirat
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Post by Firewater 3/7/2013, 1:18 pm

Soccertoughness wrote:North Texas has been blessed with an excellent pool of players. The area is growing and the competition is only getting better. In order to get better you need to practice. The practice can be in your back yard, with your team or with one of many choices in the area.
Currently, FC Dallas, Dallas Texans, City Futsal, Soccer Dynamics have taken the torch to create a more extensive approach. Each have it's strong points to each program. As time goes by I foresee more clubs creating more extensive programs and improving the level of competition. In the end it is a win win for the area. The level improves and everyone wins. Some may argue that practicing in your backyard would yield similar results. Does anyone want to share their experience and thoughts on the subject. In the end their is no right answer, each child responds differently to different environments. What works for one might not work for another.

FC Dallas program:

Dallas Texans residency

City Futsal developmental soccer program

Soccer dynamics program

More to come


An interesting question is what are the requirements for entry for each of these programs and what age do they start?

Can you get in simply by paying enough money or does your kid have to try out?





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Post by Laimport 3/7/2013, 2:42 pm

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What? I would think a kid in 'residency' (whatever that means) is training 4-5 days a week. By the way, as a former track athlete, that is a daily thing as well.

'Overuse' injuries tend to be a uniquely American phenomenon. You rarely hear of it happening elsewhere. If you are a footballer with a sound training program, one would think that there is a balance between technical, tactical and physical training.

There is a time to give players a break...but it isn't 3-4 days a week. It's more like 4-5 weeks a year.

I should clarify, I meant 4 residency sessions (2 to 3 hours at most places), plus 2x2 hour club practices, plus Saturday game/warmup, plus ODP/DA/pickup sessions. I think training 4 days a week is perfectly fine, that gives you 1-2 days off a week to recover. But, residency PLUS club practices creates days where kids are training for 4+ hours a day, probably two days a week, hence the question I pose. Including residency/club practices/extra sessions, have any parents currently in residency programs seen any wear and tear like osgood schlatters, jumpers knee, shin splints, etc. that they think is related to cramming in too much training with too little downtime. Do club coaches work with residency kids to make sure they are taking it a little easy on them if theyve had a really hard residency session and are wore out?

That's a long list. My definition of residency would mean an all inclusive program. 4-5 days per week plus matches. (A manageable number.)

ODP wouldn't be a part of the picture. If you are in a true residency program the players aren't permitted to participate in any other venue.

Like go, I'm skeptical when I hear about overuse injuries. Just not very common elsewhere. Because in a truly professional program, the players are looked after. Meaning the sessions are balanced to accomodate the players physical needs.

Now it is probably not realistic to train 4-5 days a week and playing 60-70+ total games a year.

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Post by heyyouguys 3/7/2013, 2:50 pm

I'm just looking at the programs the original poster mentioned... not what the ideal residency program would. The programs mentioned at the top are all stand alone programs... except for fc dallas which I know nothing about. They don't replace club practices... they are additional 4 day/week training. The kids still go to their usual club practices, and I know many of them participate in pre-DA and/or ODP. I dont know much about the older age groups, and how DA plays into that, I'm more focused on the younger players. So, I guess my question is more in regards to those kids already in those residency programs, to see how they are holding up with what appears to be a very exhaustive soccer schedule. Maybe residency program is the wrong word to use, but I think its a pretty common term which although incorrect, is the name most people use to talk about those programs. Programs that youre going to go to every day after school.

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Post by Real Barcelona 3/7/2013, 3:12 pm

Well I guess my reply went no were.

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Post by Soccertoughness 3/8/2013, 7:34 am

I believe that in the near future the "residency program" will have a try out or something that allows the residency to see where the athlete is. As these become
More popular each program has to set it self apart.
Some of the programs have added yoga, mental training and other aspects of the game that are not normally taught until later.
Overall the goal is to elevate the level of soccer. In the ideal world, if all the "talent" went to one program that allowed all the local resources to focus on the best talent would be the way to go. This way the best of the best are training with each other.
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Post by soccerlove 8/10/2014, 6:44 am

I would love to hear from parents whose bb were in a residency program. Did you notice improvement in tactical play, skills attributed to the residency program? Thoughts?
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Post by 02Yesssss 8/10/2014, 2:54 pm

soccerlove wrote:I would love to hear from parents whose bb were in a residency program. Did you notice improvement in tactical play, skills attributed to the residency program? Thoughts?

My bb does the City Futsal residency program. His skills, tactical, & most important his confidence has improved. He was enrolled at the half way point of last year. Can't wait to see what a year does. Takes lots of dedication. Unfortunately $$$$ as well.
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Post by Tx Hotspur 8/10/2014, 3:46 pm

soccerlove wrote:I would love to hear from parents whose bb were in a residency program. Did you notice improvement in tactical play, skills attributed to the residency program? Thoughts?

SoccerToughness had a kid at Texans residency.  This is just looking to create traffic and awareness to his website.

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Post by Rightback 8/10/2014, 4:33 pm

My kid is in a residency program so that in the future he will be a doctor or engineer. People have not been able to convince me that I would have been better off investing in soccer. I suppose his $25k per year academic scholarship will have to bring me consolation.

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Post by soccerlove 8/10/2014, 8:08 pm

Thank you 02yesssss, good to hear. I just hadn't heard any recent information about residency. Do Texans still have a program tx hotspur?
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Post by Guest 8/10/2014, 10:43 pm

I cringe every time someone mentions 2/week practices are status quo...that's where the injuries come from...

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