State Cup brackets & predictions

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Bracket A
Solar Chelsea Red, DTxns South, Ayses Gold
Bracket B
DTxn Red, FCD Central, Barca, FCD Gold
Bracket C
Liverpool, FCD Premier, FCD Youth, Wizards

Predictions:
Bracket A winner vs Wildcard = Solar vs. FCD Premier
Bracket B winner vs Bracket C winner = DTxn Red vs. Liverpool

Final:
Solar vs. DTxn Red = a good game, maybe PKs

There is my opinion. Thoughts?

my picks for this state cup tourney 2013



Bracket A winner

Solar Red hands down!

Bracket B winner

DTR

Bracket C winner

this is going to be the dogfight bracket

Liverpool has had injuries

FCD premier has been on the decline since the spring season began

FCD lopez seemed to better in the spring but still either hot or cold

wizards well this will probably be their last tourney before losing whats left of their good players



quick notes

Ayses will take 2 losses lucky for them they only play two games and if they felt like FCD lopez was physical then this tourney will have them in shock!

FCD gold same issue although the can play physical and have a solid defense they will needsome good finishers to compete, im sure figo has already addressed this with his parents,look out strikers

wizards without their striker up top they will go 3 and out and im hearing they will lose him and a few others for next season not good at all

FCD premier not sure how this team will do or maybe their plans for next season will effect them?

FCD central no guest players to help them in this one

What happened to FCD Premier?

Joker wrote:What happened to FCD Premier?

they got beat by a relegated D2 team

also

DTR 2 FCD Gold 0

Solar Red 3 Ayses gold 0

FCD central 2 Barcelona 1

Liverpool 3 wizards 2

DTS 2 Ayses 1

Wow just checked the standings did Classic relegate the right FCD team? Lopez winning his bracket - congrats to them hope they pull off some upsets!

Joker wrote:Wow just checked the standings did Classic relegate the right FCD team? Lopez winning his bracket - congrats to them hope they pull off some upsets!

yea that makes you wonder huh? if you go by the new league standard they were the ONLY D2 team in the tournament and are now in the semis

To be a top coach at FCD you have to have connections or be a good politician. That gets you the top talent. Then it's downhill from there. Some of the better coaches are at the lower ranks but unfortunately they will never get a sniff at the better teams.

It's unfortunate really, they get the pick of the litter and don't know how to develop. Then a better latin player comes along and so the story goes. There are exceptions but very very limited. Clem, Hayden, Suarez, Pino, etc. etc. Been doing it for a long time and history will keep repeating itself.

ICThelight wrote:To be a top coach at FCD you have to have connections or be a good politician. That gets you the top talent. Then it's downhill from there. Some of the better coaches are at the lower ranks but unfortunately they will never get a sniff at the better teams.

It's unfortunate really, they get the pick of the litter and don't know how to develop. Then a better latin player comes along and so the story goes. There are exceptions but very very limited. Clem, Hayden, Suarez, Pino, etc. etc. Been doing it for a long time and history will keep repeating itself.

You definitely know your FCD soccer!!!!!! Politics is their biggest problem though, especially when it comes to PA/DA. If you want to make PA, just come to tryouts from another club, like Texans or Andro, let Hayden know you are there, then you are in, especially if you have ever played for, or are related to anyone who might know someone that played for JB.

ICThelight wrote:To be a top coach at FCD you have to have connections or be a good politician. That gets you the top talent. Then it's downhill from there. Some of the better coaches are at the lower ranks but unfortunately they will never get a sniff at the better teams.

It's unfortunate really, they get the pick of the litter and don't know how to develop. Then a better latin player comes along and so the story goes. There are exceptions but very very limited. Clem, Hayden, Suarez, Pino, etc. etc. Been doing it for a long time and history will keep repeating itself.

whaoooooo hold on there bud, not sure about your list there what has clem and pino done exactly? both those coaches for instance drug down that 99 team that suarez had and if fcd were smart they would beg suarez to take the team back and hopefully salvage whats left and make the a true top fcd team again. from what im told clem and pino should just stick to training and at the smaller ages at that.

speaking of which hey ICthelight/coach will you be taking the texans academy team? if not then stop calling me my bb wont go unless your there? how many from fcd are going overthere anyway?

onetouch wrote:

ICThelight wrote:To be a top coach at FCD you have to have connections or be a good politician. That gets you the top talent. Then it's downhill from there. Some of the better coaches are at the lower ranks but unfortunately they will never get a sniff at the better teams.

It's unfortunate really, they get the pick of the litter and don't know how to develop. Then a better latin player comes along and so the story goes. There are exceptions but very very limited. Clem, Hayden, Suarez, Pino, etc. etc. Been doing it for a long time and history will keep repeating itself.

You definitely know your FCD soccer!!!!!! Politics is their biggest problem though, especially when it comes to PA/DA. If you want to make PA, just come to tryouts from another club, like Texans or Andro, let Hayden know you are there, then you are in, especially if you have ever played for, or are related to anyone who might know someone that played for JB.

This sounds more like sour grapes.

whaoooooo hold on there bud, not sure about your list there what has clem and pino done exactly? both those coaches for instance drug down that 99 team that suarez had and if fcd were smart they would beg suarez to take the team back and hopefully salvage whats left and make the a true top fcd team again. from what im told clem and pino should just stick to training and at the smaller ages at that.

speaking of which hey ICthelight/coach will you be taking the texans academy team? if not then stop calling me my bb wont go unless your there? how many from fcd are going overthere anyway?[/quote]

Pump the breaks there Boss. A little revisionist history there. That team was never a top team to drag down and never really above mid pack. Clem and Pino have left the team where it has always been, mediocre. FCD Prem has some good kids on it just like central (may have more talent) and FCD Navy(?)but it does not have all of the best FCD kids in the age group so it is Premier in name only. If there is any fault at all with Pino and Clem is that they both made their own beds to lay in. They made poor teams and they are just coaches not magicians.

I have been impressed with the work Suarez has been doing but if I was him I would stay away from that team. It's time for him to step into the academy. Not mire himself down in mediocrity. I doubt politics of the club would allow him to make many roster changes and without that, they are what they are.

getafe01 wrote:

onetouch wrote:

ICThelight wrote:To be a top coach at FCD you have to have connections or be a good politician. That gets you the top talent. Then it's downhill from there. Some of the better coaches are at the lower ranks but unfortunately they will never get a sniff at the better teams.

It's unfortunate really, they get the pick of the litter and don't know how to develop. Then a better latin player comes along and so the story goes. There are exceptions but very very limited. Clem, Hayden, Suarez, Pino, etc. etc. Been doing it for a long time and history will keep repeating itself.

You definitely know your FCD soccer!!!!!! Politics is their biggest problem though, especially when it comes to PA/DA. If you want to make PA, just come to tryouts from another club, like Texans or Andro, let Hayden know you are there, then you are in, especially if you have ever played for, or are related to anyone who might know someone that played for JB.

This sounds more like sour grapes.

Who is JB? Any hints?

Real Barcelona wrote:

getafe01 wrote:

onetouch wrote:

ICThelight wrote:To be a top coach at FCD you have to have connections or be a good politician. That gets you the top talent. Then it's downhill from there. Some of the better coaches are at the lower ranks but unfortunately they will never get a sniff at the better teams.

It's unfortunate really, they get the pick of the litter and don't know how to develop. Then a better latin player comes along and so the story goes. There are exceptions but very very limited. Clem, Hayden, Suarez, Pino, etc. etc. Been doing it for a long time and history will keep repeating itself.

You definitely know your FCD soccer!!!!!! Politics is their biggest problem though, especially when it comes to PA/DA. If you want to make PA, just come to tryouts from another club, like Texans or Andro, let Hayden know you are there, then you are in, especially if you have ever played for, or are related to anyone who might know someone that played for JB.

This sounds more like sour grapes.

Who is JB? Any hints?

Josema Bazan - came to FCD two years ago from defunct Andro.

The Boss wrote:

ICThelight wrote:To be a top coach at FCD you have to have connections or be a good politician. That gets you the top talent. Then it's downhill from there. Some of the better coaches are at the lower ranks but unfortunately they will never get a sniff at the better teams.

It's unfortunate really, they get the pick of the litter and don't know how to develop. Then a better latin player comes along and so the story goes. There are exceptions but very very limited. Clem, Hayden, Suarez, Pino, etc. etc. Been doing it for a long time and history will keep repeating itself.

whaoooooo hold on there bud, not sure about your list there what has clem and pino done exactly? both those coaches for instance drug down that 99 team that suarez had and if fcd were smart they would beg suarez to take the team back and hopefully salvage whats left and make the a true top fcd team again. from what im told clem and pino should just stick to training and at the smaller ages at that.

speaking of which hey ICthelight/coach will you be taking the texans academy team? if not then stop calling me my bb wont go unless your there? how many from fcd are going overthere anyway?

Hey Boss, either you're drunk or retarded. Coach? How many are going over there? You keep on pretending.

That was just a short list, I as well as many others can add to it if you'd like. So why don't you tell me, what have Pino and Clem done exactly? The answer is simple, nothing at al. And they will continue coaching the "Premier" teams and will continue to do nothing at all. They can't win, they can't develop, etc. etc. If a good practice every so often is what floats your boat, row away. And Suarez, cmon now. You can assist and carry coat tails around all day long but on his owwn, all talk and nothing more. Sure likes to talk though, especially behind the scenes....

I will be the first to say FCD has too many coaches that shouldn't be coaching at a professional organization. I have always thought Suarez had a passion for youth soccer and when he came back from the academy I saw some really good things from a guy who put in a lot of extra work and dedication to improve himself as a coach. He is a young guy who cares about what he is doing and wants to do it the right way. Coming out of academy I would have always been there to support him, but I would now. I would love to see him take a pre academy or maybe 13/14 academy team. But if you are from texans I would just say pot meet kettle. They will give any joker with 15 payers a business card and texan credentials. The amount of stench coming off the pile over at FCD is only exceeded by that of the Texans. The only bad part with FCD is that they are "supposed" to be a professional organization.

getafe01 wrote:

onetouch wrote:

ICThelight wrote:To be a top coach at FCD you have to have connections or be a good politician. That gets you the top talent. Then it's downhill from there. Some of the better coaches are at the lower ranks but unfortunately they will never get a sniff at the better teams.

It's unfortunate really, they get the pick of the litter and don't know how to develop. Then a better latin player comes along and so the story goes. There are exceptions but very very limited. Clem, Hayden, Suarez, Pino, etc. etc. Been doing it for a long time and history will keep repeating itself.

You definitely know your FCD soccer!!!!!! Politics is their biggest problem though, especially when it comes to PA/DA. If you want to make PA, just come to tryouts from another club, like Texans or Andro, let Hayden know you are there, then you are in, especially if you have ever played for, or are related to anyone who might know someone that played for JB.

This sounds more like sour grapes.

No, no sour grapes, it is just the facts. If you know the rosters from the original 98 PA Team, and this years 99 PA team, and you know who tried out, you would know that what is stated is true. My point was simply to say that IC's point about politics was true, because some bb's that made those teams were not the best players that tried out, they just came from other clubs that CH wanted to take them from, and most had played for JB at some point.

It is CH's job to bring kids into the FCD system and he did it. As far as the politics go, sure there was some but thats very comon for FCD

onetouch wrote:

getafe01 wrote:

onetouch wrote:

ICThelight wrote:To be a top coach at FCD you have to have connections or be a good politician. That gets you the top talent. Then it's downhill from there. Some of the better coaches are at the lower ranks but unfortunately they will never get a sniff at the better teams.

It's unfortunate really, they get the pick of the litter and don't know how to develop. Then a better latin player comes along and so the story goes. There are exceptions but very very limited. Clem, Hayden, Suarez, Pino, etc. etc. Been doing it for a long time and history will keep repeating itself.

You definitely know your FCD soccer!!!!!! Politics is their biggest problem though, especially when it comes to PA/DA. If you want to make PA, just come to tryouts from another club, like Texans or Andro, let Hayden know you are there, then you are in, especially if you have ever played for, or are related to anyone who might know someone that played for JB.

This sounds more like sour grapes.

No, no sour grapes, it is just the facts. If you know the rosters from the original 98 PA Team, and this years 99 PA team, and you know who tried out, you would know that what is stated is true. My point was simply to say that IC's point about politics was true, because some bb's that made those teams were not the best players that tried out, they just came from other clubs that CH wanted to take them from, and most had played for JB at some point.

The same can be said or claimed about other teams. Facts are facts. Talent is very subjective. Loyalty means squat. And, politics and paternalism often prevail.

I want to precede with I am new to the forum and trying to learn more about soccer in general and NTX soccer.

Please explain about what it means that with FCD soccer the biggest problem is politics--especially when it comes to PA/DA? I have read a few posts that have connected FCD with politics. Just trying to get a better understanding.

Also,what is the Solar PA/DA like in general or specifics?

There is subjectivity in the determination of the ability of the players to play soccer as compared to lets say Track were the time rules and there is no question as to who is faster. Except for a truly gifted player, the rest will have to compete for spots and that is where subjectivity and politics comes to play. It happens in any team sport and is not exclusive of FCD. All clubs have politics, the bigger the club the bigger the problem.

ICThelight wrote:

The Boss wrote:

ICThelight wrote:To be a top coach at FCD you have to have connections or be a good politician. That gets you the top talent. Then it's downhill from there. Some of the better coaches are at the lower ranks but unfortunately they will never get a sniff at the better teams.

It's unfortunate really, they get the pick of the litter and don't know how to develop. Then a better latin player comes along and so the story goes. There are exceptions but very very limited. Clem, Hayden, Suarez, Pino, etc. etc. Been doing it for a long time and history will keep repeating itself.

whaoooooo hold on there bud, not sure about your list there what has clem and pino done exactly? both those coaches for instance drug down that 99 team that suarez had and if fcd were smart they would beg suarez to take the team back and hopefully salvage whats left and make the a true top fcd team again. from what im told clem and pino should just stick to training and at the smaller ages at that.

speaking of which hey ICthelight/coach will you be taking the texans academy team? if not then stop calling me my bb wont go unless your there? how many from fcd are going overthere anyway?

Hey Boss, either you're drunk or retarded. Coach? How many are going over there? You keep on pretending.

That was just a short list, I as well as many others can add to it if you'd like. So why don't you tell me, what have Pino and Clem done exactly? The answer is simple, nothing at al. And they will continue coaching the "Premier" teams and will continue to do nothing at all. They can't win, they can't develop, etc. etc. If a good practice every so often is what floats your boat, row away. And Suarez, cmon now. You can assist and carry coat tails around all day long but on his owwn, all talk and nothing more. Sure likes to talk though, especially behind the scenes....

hey dumbass re-read what i wrote i didnt say clem and pino wereworth a s* i actually was saying they have broked down the team that suarez built, are you serious about suarez? the man has actually grown as a coach and is actually trying to better himself as a coach, if being an assistant is part of it then he is doing what needs to be done and whats wrong with that? 99% of the ntx coaches already think they are the best cudos to suarez for trying to make a change in ntx and become what most of ntx babbles about on here? a coach who can both win and develope. helli wish our coach would takes some notes from him but hell hes a texan coach so what dod you expect right? but let me guess your going to say marcio is the "golden key" didnt you think that about bazan also? isnt that where all you guys had free beer or something

socmom99 wrote:I want to precede with I am new to the forum and trying to learn more about soccer in general and NTX soccer.

Please explain about what it means that with FCD soccer the biggest problem is politics--especially when it comes to PA/DA? I have read a few posts that have connected FCD with politics. Just trying to get a better understanding.

Also,what is the Solar PA/DA like in general or specifics?

ntx soccer = politics thats all you need to know basically,now if you have alot of money and big lips then your good to go

The Boss wrote:

socmom99 wrote:I want to precede with I am new to the forum and trying to learn more about soccer in general and NTX soccer.

Please explain about what it means that with FCD soccer the biggest problem is politics--especially when it comes to PA/DA? I have read a few posts that have connected FCD with politics. Just trying to get a better understanding.

Also,what is the Solar PA/DA like in general or specifics?

ntx soccer = politics thats all you need to know basically,now if you have alot of money and big lips then your good to go

Or you can just volunteer to be the team manager that will certainly buy your BB some time on the pitch

The Boss wrote:

socmom99 wrote:I want to precede with I am new to the forum and trying to learn more about soccer in general and NTX soccer.

Please explain about what it means that with FCD soccer the biggest problem is politics--especially when it comes to PA/DA? I have read a few posts that have connected FCD with politics. Just trying to get a better understanding.

Also,what is the Solar PA/DA like in general or specifics?

ntx soccer = politics thats all you need to know basically,now if you have alot of money and big lips then your good to go

The money issue is a card too often played by individuals with sour grapes. Politics exist in ALL clubs, and all walks of life, regardless of size. It is human nature and unfortunately will not go away. The decision on talent is subjective and often linked to misses, but that too is never going to change as everyone has differences of opinion to the definition of skill. What one coach sees in someone, another may not. Unfortunately, parents' egos refuse to accept such decisions. The parents look to find ways to make an excuse. Not saying this happens all the time since politics, money and parental effort (working for the club as a team manager as noted by a poster above) play an occasional role, just not to the extent or extreme that people/posters claim it to be. It seems that too many coaches and clubs get criticized for paternalism, money etc than reality dictates. Bottom line, it is usually the subjective nature of the coach/team that is responsible for a negative decision on a child that the parent cannot come to grips with. Everyone will not have the same opinion of a respective player or respective club. People look for different things and should not be criticized for such. Parents, as difficult as it can be, just need to move on if the fit or decision does not go the way they want rather than make an excuse and complain.

[quote="getafe01"]

wrote:

The money issue is a card too often played by individuals with sour grapes. Politics exist in ALL clubs, and all walks of life, regardless of size. It is human nature and unfortunately will not go away. The decision on talent is subjective and often linked to misses, but that too is never going to change as everyone has differences of opinion to the definition of skill. What one coach sees in someone, another may not. Unfortunately, parents' egos refuse to accept such decisions. The parents look to find ways to make an excuse. Not saying this happens all the time since politics, money and parental effort (working for the club as a team manager as noted by a poster above) play an occasional role, just not to the extent or extreme that people/posters claim it to be. It seems that too many coaches and clubs get criticized for paternalism, money etc than reality dictates. Bottom line, it is usually the subjective nature of the coach/team that is responsible for a negative decision on a child that the parent cannot come to grips with. Everyone will not have the same opinion of a respective player or respective club. People look for different things and should not be criticized for such. Parents, as difficult as it can be, just need to move on if the fit or decision does not go the way they want rather than make an excuse and complain.

Truth, Getafe. Well stated.


For the rest of us...
May I suggest you watch "House of Cards" on Netflix for an entertaining lesson in politics, as played fictionally in Washington DC. Human nature, indeed. Some just stand by clueless, others can be quite, ah ruthless.