Brazilian Footballer Decapitated

soccerisgood123 wrote:

bigtex75081 wrote:

soccerisgood123 wrote:but since we are in fantasy land, a mad gunman is walking toward your son, everyone is running away screaming, your son is cowering in fear waiting for the death shot, fortunately for you someone took their chl seriously, trained and killed the gunman and your son grows up healthy and lives the life he was entitled to...you of course now change your opinion and thank god someone else wasn't as naive as you USED to be...

Understanding your responsibility while you’re sitting in a classroom is different than acting responsibly outside of it.  Are you promising me that every CHL holder will always act responsibly?

As for the mad gunman... When a CHL brandishes his gun, he’s making it clear his willingness to use it.  Wouldn't that qualify him as a mad gunman?  The guy is waiving a gun around, right?  If someone is showing a willingness to use a gun, shouldn't the 2 or 3 other CHL holders around the facility immediately put him down?  How do CHL holders calmly determine each other’s intentions in these situations?

you are so far out there. you really should take a class. waving a gun around, brandishing etc has nothing to do with a chl. having a chl doesn't mean you get to draw on people or kids with impunity. you are talking about what criminals do. you have far far far more to fear from a criminal or an unlicensed person having a firearm than a chl holder....

bigtex75081 wrote:

soccerisgood123 wrote:

bigtex75081 wrote:

soccerisgood123 wrote:but since we are in fantasy land, a mad gunman is walking toward your son, everyone is running away screaming, your son is cowering in fear waiting for the death shot, fortunately for you someone took their chl seriously, trained and killed the gunman and your son grows up healthy and lives the life he was entitled to...you of course now change your opinion and thank god someone else wasn't as naive as you USED to be...

Understanding your responsibility while you’re sitting in a classroom is different than acting responsibly outside of it.  Are you promising me that every CHL holder will always act responsibly?

As for the mad gunman... When a CHL brandishes his gun, he’s making it clear his willingness to use it.  Wouldn't that qualify him as a mad gunman?  The guy is waiving a gun around, right?  If someone is showing a willingness to use a gun, shouldn't the 2 or 3 other CHL holders around the facility immediately put him down?  How do CHL holders calmly determine each other’s intentions in these situations?

you are so far out there. you really should take a class. waving a gun around, brandishing etc has nothing to do with a chl. having a chl doesn't mean you get to draw on people or kids with impunity. you are talking about what criminals do. you have far far far more to fear from a criminal or an unlicensed person having a firearm than a chl holder....

I don't understand why I'm so far out there.  I don't want anybody that's carrying a gun around my kids. That sentiment even includes logical people that are thoroughly trained.  Nobody can unpull a trigger... even if it was just pulled by accident.

rdeal486 wrote:

rantnrave wrote:

rantnrave wrote:

bigtex75081 wrote:3 years from now I’ve got my CHL and I’m carrying during my son’s soccer game.  This argument here changed my perception of the value in carrying for safety.

I’m exactly like you.  My son is exactly like your son.  My son is a good kid.  He doesn’t make trouble but he doesn’t back away from it either.  Neither does your son.

During the game our sons are marking each other.  Early in this very competitive game your son and my son are both going after the ball.  Your son is playing hard and accidently elbows my son in the ribs.  No foul was called, because the referee couldn’t see it from his angle, but my son didn’t like it at all.  My son (full of testosterone and adrenaline just like your son) decides to start playing more physical.

The first half wears on and your son doesn’t appreciate the more physical play. Your son zings the ref for not calling the game fairly and that’s how the trash-talking begins between the two of them.  Yellow cards get issued but neither kid cares because it’s more about pride at this point.

To make matters worse, the sidelines are getting unruly as emotions are running high there too.  People are complaining and whining and yelling.  Things are getting tense.

To exacerbate a very tense moment.  A Person sees you draw your weapon.  That Person also has a gun.  He aims at you and misses with a shot.  An innocent bystander is shot/killed instead.  Now what?

The referees have tried desperately to get things under control but with only a couple minutes left, they just want this game to end.  Even some league officials have wondered over to the field at this point.

With 2 minutes left in this hard-fought and overly-physical game there is one last battle for a ball between our sons.  This time the elbow from my son was intentional and your son felt it badly.  With an instant reaction built out of anger, anxiety and fear your son clenches his eyes shut and clenches his right fist and lands the luckiest punch ever.  His fist plows into the right side of my son’s jaw and knocks him unconscious immediately.  It happens in only an instant.

My son is helpless, flat on his back about 10 yards in front of me.  Your son opens his eyes and realizes he’s standing right over my son.  Your son’s feet are right by my son’s head.

Your son’s balance shifts a little and it appears to me like your son is getting ready kick my son’s unconscious face with his right foot.  This is the same right foot that just kicked a soccer ball 65 yards through the air.  I’m instantly worried about my son’s safety.

Because I’m worried my son is in mortal danger I unclip the .45 I’m carrying.  (If I’m not willing to use it then why would I carry it, right?)  As I flip the safety I tell your son to stop but he doesn’t hear me.  Your son makes what appears to me as another aggressive move toward my son.  My son is in danger and that is why I decide to pull the trigger and put a bullet into the middle of your son’s chest.  And that’s when this story stops…

Would you still be arguing for my right to carry a handgun onto a youth soccer field after that?

To exacerbate a very tense moment.  A Parent sees you draw your weapon.  That Parent shoots in your direction.  The shot is a poor one as he is really not qualified to carry a gun.  He misses you and shoots an innocent bystander instead.  Now what?

He spends the rest of his life in prison.

bigtex75081 wrote:Understanding your responsibility while you’re sitting in a classroom is different than acting responsibly outside of it.  Are you promising me that every CHL holder will always act responsibly?

go99 wrote:hey let's just give everyone a gun.  That way we can all shoot at each other.  Why should the CHL be the only one to get in on the fun.  I mean if we look at the rest of the world, wide access to guns has always brought down gun violence so I am sure it will work here.  Yep that a recipe for success and a greater and happier CL.  Every parent on the sideline with a handgun.  Better arm those refs too though.  Oh and the field marshalls.  Now I was told that according to the handbook  you CANNOT CARRY at professional sporting event in Texas no matter if legal signs are present or not.  But I guess since they are just kids and not professional feel free.  Remember everyone bring your gun to the next CL game.  Never know when some mother hen steps onto the field and looks threatning and needs to be put down. Or some paranoid guy that feels like the world is out to get him and his son and he has an itchy trigger finger.  Gotta draw down on him first.  This is Texas after all.  


Hmmm or maybe you freaks could just keep your kids at home wrapped in bubble wrap.  They would be safer that way

soccerisgood123 wrote:

go99 wrote:hey let's just give everyone a gun.  That way we can all shoot at each other.  Why should the CHL be the only one to get in on the fun.  I mean if we look at the rest of the world, wide access to guns has always brought down gun violence so I am sure it will work here.  Yep that a recipe for success and a greater and happier CL.  Every parent on the sideline with a handgun.  Better arm those refs too though.  Oh and the field marshalls.  Now I was told that according to the handbook  you CANNOT CARRY at professional sporting event in Texas no matter if legal signs are present or not.  But I guess since they are just kids and not professional feel free.  Remember everyone bring your gun to the next CL game.  Never know when some mother hen steps onto the field and looks threatning and needs to be put down. Or some paranoid guy that feels like the world is out to get him and his son and he has an itchy trigger finger.  Gotta draw down on him first.  This is Texas after all.  


Hmmm or maybe you freaks could just keep your kids at home wrapped in bubble wrap.  They would be safer that way

you always did have the corner on silly a$$ comments, i bet you will be the first to scream where were the police when something goes wrong...

go99 wrote:Unlike SIG the president doesn't rule my every thought.  He is just a man and his office is just the president.  He is limited in what he can and cannot do.  Just like the president before him he is fairly well educated guy doing a very tough job.  Sometime right and sometimes wrong.  But I am smart enough to see that losing in a democracy is not tyranny. And the mere differing of opinion does not make you a clown.

Yep you should be done with this thread.  No need to suffer the reasoned thoughts of Bigtex.