99 Recruiting

How much do teams/coaches look at players on other teams? Do they go out and scout teams to look for possible future players to recruit? Do parents need to approach teams about guest playing or do teams go out and ask themselves?

Alot. Yes. Both.

alot, yes, both, but it all depends on the kid. Guest playing is a good idea so you can find a good fit.

Some, but not all, teams are constantly on the lookout for "upgrades". If your kid is a super studly, and especially if you are not on a D1 team, you will almost certainly be approached by someone. Recruiting is totally against the Classic League rules, but still it goes on.

OnTheSurface wrote:Some, but not all, teams are constantly on the lookout for "upgrades". If your kid is a super studly, and especially if you are not on a D1 team, you will almost certainly be approached by someone. Recruiting is totally against the Classic League rules, but still it goes on.

However, you also need to under stand the definition of recruiting as defined by NTSSA. Being approached is not recruiting (see text in red below):

3.10.9

1. Recruiting is defined as:
a. Allowing a player to participate in practice or games with a team on which the player
is not rostered unless such participation is otherwise expressly authorized by these
NTSSA rules, and all paperwork incidental to said authorization has been fully
completed prior to such participation.

b. Allowing a player to participate in camps, skills, clinics, academies or other training
activities unless such participation is otherwise expressly authorized by NTSSA
rules, and all paperwork incident to said authorization has been fully completed
prior to such participation.

c. Actively soliciting a player to break a commitment to his current team in order to
join another team. This rule does not apply to Free Agents.
d. Making false, misleading, and/or unsubstantiated negative statements which could
reasonably be expected to influence the decision of a player regarding his choice of
teams.

e. Offering anything of monetary value to anyone to induce a player to commit to play
for a particular team; provided, offering to pay, waive or reduce a player’s expenses
associated with participating with a particular team does not constitute recruiting so
long as (i) the offer is, in good faith, based on financial need and (ii) any value
received is in fact applied to the reasonable and necessary expenses associated with
such players participation.

f. Committing to or on behalf of a team, a club, a player, or a coach for the upcoming
soccer year prior to July 1, whether in writing or otherwise, or requesting or
requiring a commitment to or by a team, club, player, or coach for the upcoming
soccer year prior to July 1 whether in writing or otherwise. (Note: A coach
requesting a returning player to state his intention concerning returning the
following soccer year, or a player inquiring about his status on the team for the
following year is permissible prior to July 1, but the commitment is not binding on
either the player or the coach..)

g. As long as the above rules are observed, nothing herein is intended to restrict the
ability of a player at any time to express a general interest in a prospective team or
for a prospective team to express at any time a general interest in a prospective
player.

2. It shall be a violation of these rules for any person, team, club or other organization to engage
in recruiting as defined above. Coaches are responsible for the actions of all of the above
listed participants associated with their team. Failure to comply with this rule shall result in
sanctions against the offending party which could include suspension from all soccer
activities for a period of time to be determined by the NTSSA Competitive Committee.
Allegations against registered youth players are subject to review before punishments are
considered. Complainant will file his complaint with the Youth Commissioner, who shall
render a decision. Either party may file an appeal of the Youth Commissioner’s decision with
the NTSSA State Executive Committee according to the Bylaws of the NTSSA.

Yep. Recruiting is against the rules but “expressions of interest” are not. Saying:”your son should leave his team and come play with us” is verboten. Saying “ We, all of us,, including our coach, noticed your son and really…really, really like the way he plays. And, oh, by the way, we have an open spot for some lucky lad whom we really think plays really well” is acceptable. Further, continually upgrading personnel is the only way to make it to the top. Stagnation is death, competitively speaking. All teams will develop technically. The teams that both develop technique and upgrade personnel will move up. On the one hand, this paradigm of shifting allegiances is a natural part of players sorting themselves out according to their inherent abilities. The perverse aspect is that competive success is required from the very beginning. The drive to win, so as to beget winning, perverts the “best practice” model of development. Oh well…welcome to America.

f. Committing to or on behalf of a team, a club, a player, or a coach for the upcoming
soccer year prior to July 1, whether in writing or otherwise, or requesting or
requiring a commitment to or by a team, club, player, or coach for the upcoming
soccer year prior to July 1 whether in writing or otherwise. (Note: A coach
requesting a returning player to state his intention concerning returning the
following soccer year, or a player inquiring about his status on the team for the
following year is permissible prior to July 1, but the commitment is not binding on
either the player or the coach..)

Herein lies your recruiting quandry. Prior to 7/1 of any year a coach needs to know who is committed to the team unless the kid is a flat out stud. If that is the case then coaches are probaly breaking the other recriuting rules. Most teams are formed and set at least 2 weeks prior to signing day. I know no coach that waits til 7/1 to start forming a team and get all players signed that same day. Parents want to know what team will be on the field prior to 7/1 and if the coach does not know then who does. This is a catch22 for both coach and parents.

OnTheSurface wrote:Some, but not all, teams are constantly on the lookout for "upgrades". If your kid is a super studly, and especially if you are not on a D1 team, you will almost certainly be approached by someone. Recruiting is totally against the Classic League rules, but still it goes on.

Not all teams are on the lookout for "upgrades", but all coaches are, or should be....

clueless wrote:

OnTheSurface wrote:Some, but not all, teams are constantly on the lookout for "upgrades". If your kid is a super studly, and especially if you are not on a D1 team, you will almost certainly be approached by someone. Recruiting is totally against the Classic League rules, but still it goes on.

Not all teams are on the lookout for "upgrades", but all coaches are, or should be....

I would hope that all coaches are looking to upgrade their teams. What do you think they are typically looking for? Talent or Chemistry?

Texas FC wrote:

clueless wrote:

OnTheSurface wrote:Some, but not all, teams are constantly on the lookout for "upgrades". If your kid is a super studly, and especially if you are not on a D1 team, you will almost certainly be approached by someone. Recruiting is totally against the Classic League rules, but still it goes on.

Not all teams are on the lookout for "upgrades", but all coaches are, or should be....

I would hope that all coaches are looking to upgrade their teams. What do you think they are typically looking for? Talent or Chemistry?

At U11 they look for chemistry so the team will get noticed which will draw the talent in.

arsenalfan wrote:

Texas FC wrote:

clueless wrote:

OnTheSurface wrote:Some, but not all, teams are constantly on the lookout for "upgrades". If your kid is a super studly, and especially if you are not on a D1 team, you will almost certainly be approached by someone. Recruiting is totally against the Classic League rules, but still it goes on.

Not all teams are on the lookout for "upgrades", but all coaches are, or should be....

I would hope that all coaches are looking to upgrade their teams. What do you think they are typically looking for? Talent or Chemistry?

At U11 they look for chemistry so the team will get noticed which will draw the talent in.

Ah ha! That explains why Pamela is with Figo.

exactly. King Craft has no talent at all, just tons of chemistry. They are practically oozing the stuff. Still have some on my shoe and can't get it off. . lol. As it goes on kids are replaced by skills and talent. If your BB is good enough then top teams will find a spot for him at the expense of Jr chemistry set. Just don't be surprised if BB is not as good as you think he is.

go99 wrote:exactly. King Craft has no talent at all, just tons of chemistry. They are practically oozing the stuff. Still have some on my shoe and can't get it off. . lol. As it goes on kids are replaced by skills and talent. If your BB is good enough then top teams will find a spot for him at the expense of Jr chemistry set. Just don't be surprised if BB is not as good as you think he is.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You proved that long ago when you said your bb "shut down the german kid". It takes more than just chemistry to be where Crafts 99 team is. And lets not crown him King Craft just yet, he was given this team, he hasn't proven anything. His challenge is can he continue to bring these boys along and keep them ahead of the curve.

Lastly, please stop with the lol, you sound like a 12 year old girl.

Marvin wrote:

go99 wrote:exactly. King Craft has no talent at all, just tons of chemistry. They are practically oozing the stuff. Still have some on my shoe and can't get it off. . lol. As it goes on kids are replaced by skills and talent. If your BB is good enough then top teams will find a spot for him at the expense of Jr chemistry set. Just don't be surprised if BB is not as good as you think he is.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You proved that long ago when you said your bb "shut down the german kid". It takes more than just chemistry to be where Crafts 99 team is. And lets not crown him King Craft just yet, he was given this team, he hasn't proven anything. His challenge is can he continue to bring these boys along and keep them ahead of the curve.

Lastly, please stop with the lol, you sound like a 12 year old girl.

Dang Martian, you're being a little rough aren't you. I only see sarcasm in his post and as much as I hate to say it, Craft if king right now. Perhaps a new king will take their place someday, but until that happens you have to give credit where it is due.

Axxman wrote:

Marvin wrote:

go99 wrote:exactly. King Craft has no talent at all, just tons of chemistry. They are practically oozing the stuff. Still have some on my shoe and can't get it off. . lol. As it goes on kids are replaced by skills and talent. If your BB is good enough then top teams will find a spot for him at the expense of Jr chemistry set. Just don't be surprised if BB is not as good as you think he is.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You proved that long ago when you said your bb "shut down the german kid". It takes more than just chemistry to be where Crafts 99 team is. And lets not crown him King Craft just yet, he was given this team, he hasn't proven anything. His challenge is can he continue to bring these boys along and keep them ahead of the curve.

Lastly, please stop with the lol, you sound like a 12 year old girl.

Dang Martian, you're being a little rough aren't you. I only see sarcasm in his post and as much as I hate to say it, Craft if king right now. Perhaps a new king will take their place someday, but until that happens you have to give credit where it is due.

I do give full credit to the boys, not Craft. He just took the team. Maybe I misunderstand 99, it sounds as if he is referring to Craft and not the team. The team , until dethroned, is king right now. Crowning Craft is premature.

Go99, if that was sarcasm, I missed it. If you believe the Texans really have no talent I stick with my original post. And I do think any adult using teenage text slang is like OMG, so lame.

Marvin wrote:

Axxman wrote:

Marvin wrote:

go99 wrote:exactly. King Craft has no talent at all, just tons of chemistry. They are practically oozing the stuff. Still have some on my shoe and can't get it off. . lol. As it goes on kids are replaced by skills and talent. If your BB is good enough then top teams will find a spot for him at the expense of Jr chemistry set. Just don't be surprised if BB is not as good as you think he is.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You proved that long ago when you said your bb "shut down the german kid". It takes more than just chemistry to be where Crafts 99 team is. And lets not crown him King Craft just yet, he was given this team, he hasn't proven anything. His challenge is can he continue to bring these boys along and keep them ahead of the curve.

Lastly, please stop with the lol, you sound like a 12 year old girl.

Dang Martian, you're being a little rough aren't you. I only see sarcasm in his post and as much as I hate to say it, Craft if king right now. Perhaps a new king will take their place someday, but until that happens you have to give credit where it is due.

I do give full credit to the boys, not Craft. He just took the team. Maybe I misunderstand 99, it sounds as if he is referring to Craft and not the team. The team , until dethroned, is king right now. Crowning Craft is premature.

Go99, if that was sarcasm, I missed it. If you believe the Texans really have no talent I stick with my original post. And I do think any adult using teenage text slang is like OMG, so lame.

Of course the boys are always the talent ! we will see what changes if for the better Craft can do as time will only tell!
as far as your concerned, I think everybody read the "sarcasm" except you! and as far as the abbreviations go, they are just that! so either just relax or go and stuff your face with pills,alcohol,or whatever eases your blood or takes you to your "happy space" this kind of site is for parents with "thick skin" and is not intended for the use of club personel,representatives and especially coaches!!!!!!!!!

omega striker wrote:

Marvin wrote:

Axxman wrote:

Marvin wrote:

go99 wrote:exactly. King Craft has no talent at all, just tons of chemistry. They are practically oozing the stuff. Still have some on my shoe and can't get it off. . lol. As it goes on kids are replaced by skills and talent. If your BB is good enough then top teams will find a spot for him at the expense of Jr chemistry set. Just don't be surprised if BB is not as good as you think he is.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You proved that long ago when you said your bb "shut down the german kid". It takes more than just chemistry to be where Crafts 99 team is. And lets not crown him King Craft just yet, he was given this team, he hasn't proven anything. His challenge is can he continue to bring these boys along and keep them ahead of the curve.

Lastly, please stop with the lol, you sound like a 12 year old girl.

Dang Martian, you're being a little rough aren't you. I only see sarcasm in his post and as much as I hate to say it, Craft if king right now. Perhaps a new king will take their place someday, but until that happens you have to give credit where it is due.

I do give full credit to the boys, not Craft. He just took the team. Maybe I misunderstand 99, it sounds as if he is referring to Craft and not the team. The team , until dethroned, is king right now. Crowning Craft is premature.

Go99, if that was sarcasm, I missed it. If you believe the Texans really have no talent I stick with my original post. And I do think any adult using teenage text slang is like OMG, so lame.

Of course the boys are always the talent ! we will see what changes if for the better Craft can do as time will only tell!
as far as your concerned, I think everybody read the "sarcasm" except you! and as far as the abbreviations go, they are just that! so either just relax or go and stuff your face with pills,alcohol,or whatever eases your blood or takes you to your "happy space" this kind of site is for parents with "thick skin" and is not intended for the use of club personel,representatives and especially coaches!!!!!!!!!

Yea, I'm club personnel. Wanting to make sure the boys and not the coach are getting credit. Doesn't sound very club line to me. Yes I may have jumped the gun, but with Go's history of ignorant statements one can never know if he is being sarcastic. By the way my skin is plenty thick but I appreciate you policing the site for everyone keeping all those undesirable thin skinned parents, coaches,club personnel...away.

Marvin, please go to the corner for a thirty-something-minute time out. Go is very blunt and sarcastic, just the way we like him. Personally, his observations are a lot keener than that of a lot of boobs on this board. Having said that, please don't go away. We love confrontation and strife here. If you're looking for peace and love hippies, try the 98 board.

Marvin wrote:

Axxman wrote:

Marvin wrote:

go99 wrote:exactly. King Craft has no talent at all, just tons of chemistry. They are practically oozing the stuff. Still have some on my shoe and can't get it off. . lol. As it goes on kids are replaced by skills and talent. If your BB is good enough then top teams will find a spot for him at the expense of Jr chemistry set. Just don't be surprised if BB is not as good as you think he is.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You proved that long ago when you said your bb "shut down the german kid". It takes more than just chemistry to be where Crafts 99 team is. And lets not crown him King Craft just yet, he was given this team, he hasn't proven anything. His challenge is can he continue to bring these boys along and keep them ahead of the curve.

Lastly, please stop with the lol, you sound like a 12 year old girl.

Dang Martian, you're being a little rough aren't you. I only see sarcasm in his post and as much as I hate to say it, Craft if king right now. Perhaps a new king will take their place someday, but until that happens you have to give credit where it is due.

I do give full credit to the boys, not Craft. He just took the team. Maybe I misunderstand 99, it sounds as if he is referring to Craft and not the team. The team , until dethroned, is king right now. Crowning Craft is premature.

Go99, if that was sarcasm, I missed it. If you believe the Texans really have no talent I stick with my original post. And I do think any adult using teenage text slang is like OMG, so lame.

ROFLOL before it was teenage text slang it was used in IM and that came from the tech industry and my company would fall apart without IM. Yes is was like totally sarcasm. MOG you are soooo lame. BTW someone else said he stoped the german from scoring and it was one game and it cost him his own scoring too. King Craft is just my catchy little name for him but he has done other top teams at texans. He is not exactly new

if you are club personnel or coaches then this is not the place for you. This is parents BS around about soccer and having a little fun. But you should stick around and keep bringing that nasty fire to the boards

Since people don't get me I will break it down and type it slowly. A prior post said chemistry was important now to win and then they used winning to attract talent. My post was a play on that. The sarcasm was that the craft team is full of talent and was built that was. Basically contradicting the chemistry theory and replacing it with a talent one. I even used the suspicious Icon " ". So marvin can pull his panties out of a bunch. You were looking to be offended and rushed in without thinking. Next time don't try so hard just wait. Give me a few minutes and I am bound to post something that offends you.

I saw a lot of kids that had talent that played on bad teams during qualifiers...I think you could make a hell of a team by taking certain kids from the teams in Plano and Arlington...a team that could compete with King Craft or any of the others....

go99 wrote:

Marvin wrote:

Axxman wrote:

Marvin wrote:

go99 wrote:exactly. King Craft has no talent at all, just tons of chemistry. They are practically oozing the stuff. Still have some on my shoe and can't get it off. . lol. As it goes on kids are replaced by skills and talent. If your BB is good enough then top teams will find a spot for him at the expense of Jr chemistry set. Just don't be surprised if BB is not as good as you think he is.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You proved that long ago when you said your bb "shut down the german kid". It takes more than just chemistry to be where Crafts 99 team is. And lets not crown him King Craft just yet, he was given this team, he hasn't proven anything. His challenge is can he continue to bring these boys along and keep them ahead of the curve.

Lastly, please stop with the lol, you sound like a 12 year old girl.

Dang Martian, you're being a little rough aren't you. I only see sarcasm in his post and as much as I hate to say it, Craft if king right now. Perhaps a new king will take their place someday, but until that happens you have to give credit where it is due.

I do give full credit to the boys, not Craft. He just took the team. Maybe I misunderstand 99, it sounds as if he is referring to Craft and not the team. The team , until dethroned, is king right now. Crowning Craft is premature.

Go99, if that was sarcasm, I missed it. If you believe the Texans really have no talent I stick with my original post. And I do think any adult using teenage text slang is like OMG, so lame.

ROFLOL before it was teenage text slang it was used in IM and that came from the tech industry and my company would fall apart without IM. Yes is was like totally sarcasm. MOG you are soooo lame. BTW someone else said he stoped the german from scoring and it was one game and it cost him his own scoring too. King Craft is just my catchy little name for him but he has done other top teams at texans. He is not exactly new

You are right, he is not exactly new. Comparing how his 98 team played last year and now, D2 is not out of the question for next year. His 99 team is superior because Preston P & Marcio trained them and handed over to him. Judging from his 98 team, the 99 Texans has no way to go but down. We can crown him King Craft for this year but I doubt it will happen again next year.

Marvin wrote:

omega striker wrote:

Marvin wrote:

Axxman wrote:

Marvin wrote:

go99 wrote:exactly. King Craft has no talent at all, just tons of chemistry. They are practically oozing the stuff. Still have some on my shoe and can't get it off. . lol. As it goes on kids are replaced by skills and talent. If your BB is good enough then top teams will find a spot for him at the expense of Jr chemistry set. Just don't be surprised if BB is not as good as you think he is.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You proved that long ago when you said your bb "shut down the german kid". It takes more than just chemistry to be where Crafts 99 team is. And lets not crown him King Craft just yet, he was given this team, he hasn't proven anything. His challenge is can he continue to bring these boys along and keep them ahead of the curve.

Lastly, please stop with the lol, you sound like a 12 year old girl.

Dang Martian, you're being a little rough aren't you. I only see sarcasm in his post and as much as I hate to say it, Craft if king right now. Perhaps a new king will take their place someday, but until that happens you have to give credit where it is due.

I do give full credit to the boys, not Craft. He just took the team. Maybe I misunderstand 99, it sounds as if he is referring to Craft and not the team. The team , until dethroned, is king right now. Crowning Craft is premature.

Go99, if that was sarcasm, I missed it. If you believe the Texans really have no talent I stick with my original post. And I do think any adult using teenage text slang is like OMG, so lame.

Of course the boys are always the talent ! we will see what changes if for the better Craft can do as time will only tell!
as far as your concerned, I think everybody read the "sarcasm" except you! and as far as the abbreviations go, they are just that! so either just relax or go and stuff your face with pills,alcohol,or whatever eases your blood or takes you to your "happy space" this kind of site is for parents with "thick skin" and is not intended for the use of club personel,representatives and especially coaches!!!!!!!!!

Yea, I'm club personnel. Wanting to make sure the boys and not the coach are getting credit. Doesn't sound very club line to me. Yes I may have jumped the gun, but with Go's history of ignorant statements one can never know if he is being sarcastic. By the way my skin is plenty thick but I appreciate you policing the site for everyone keeping all those undesirable thin skinned parents, coaches,club personnel...away.

I'm glad you now know your place! yes I do speak for alot of people on here, your the noob on here fool not go99 or anybody else ? if you don't like then go play on facebook, myspace or twitter with all the other kiddo's!

[You are right, he is not exactly new. Comparing how his 98 team played last year and now, D2 is not out of the question for next year. His 99 team is superior because Preston P & Marcio trained them and handed over to him. Judging from his 98 team, the 99 Texans has no way to go but down. We can crown him King Craft for this year but I doubt it will happen again next year.[/quote]
Okay let me clarify the "king craft". HN is a very smart guy (even though he is the darklord ) and Craft has been around for a bit. I don't think HN has him around because he likes his haircut and is dating pamela anderson (figo's ex). By no means is he responsible for that teams winning. Talent wins and overwhelming talent dominates. My 6yr old Daughter could coach that team to an undefeated season. BTW she may be better than bb and is a pure scorer averaging 11 goals a game (sorry, threw that one in for my bud speedy )
King Craft is just a nickname. Craft extra cheesy wasn't as catchy or easy to type. does look like some sensative nerves about craft out there though. Wassup with that?