Texans Fall Festival Seeding process

Laimport wrote:

mspan02 wrote:I have a question Laim (or is it Lame?) jk
Which of the 16 teams that you believe are in the big boy bracket should be kicked out so you can get in?

D1 - DTR, DTR FTW, Andro Red, FCD Central, FCD Blue, FCD Gold, Rayados, TFC Royal

PA - DT U15, FCD, Solar Chelsea U15

D2 - TFC Blue, Alliance United, Dallas Tigres, DT Red West, Barcelona


Also, why did your team duck Plano Labor Day?

In a previous post I mentioned San Diego for Thanksgiving and you said no way (fair enough) but my point on that one was if not SD then sign up for Bobby Rhine which you apparently still have not done yet.
Why?

And lastly, you beat Solar Red in a tourney (and keep forgetting to say that a Arlington team, TX Lightning you could NOT beat) but then you completely DISMISS the classic league results of Solar Red where everyone here in D1 has handled them fairly easily (10 losses and 2 draws)
They have scored 12 and given up 35
And they are still #3 in Got Soccer
According to your rationale, shouldn't they be in MLS then with that RANKING?

Also, I would say FCD gold, barcelona and Alliance.

We didn't 'duck' PLD either. We played ASC instead...which I believe was a week earlier? TX Lightning we were missing 3 starters...or maybe more than that. Have to check.

CSPAN, if you are going to question, at least try to be serious about it.

bigtex75081 wrote:

mspan02 wrote:Which of the 16 teams that you believe are in the big boy bracket should be kicked out so you can get in?

This is the part that I don't get. Why should any team that registered for this tournament be excluded from the so-called "big boy bracket"? Why can't all the teams that registered get an equal shot? If the tournament was capped at 16 available spots then they should have stopped accepting applications at #16.

Turftoe96 wrote:

Laimport wrote:

mspan02 wrote:I have a question Laim (or is it Lame?) jk
Which of the 16 teams that you believe are in the big boy bracket should be kicked out so you can get in?

D1 - DTR, DTR FTW, Andro Red, FCD Central, FCD Blue, FCD Gold, Rayados, TFC Royal

PA - DT U15, FCD, Solar Chelsea U15

D2 - TFC Blue, Alliance United, Dallas Tigres, DT Red West, Barcelona


Also, why did your team duck Plano Labor Day?

In a previous post I mentioned San Diego for Thanksgiving and you said no way (fair enough) but my point on that one was if not SD then sign up for Bobby Rhine which you apparently still have not done yet.
Why?

And lastly, you beat Solar Red in a tourney (and keep forgetting to say that a Arlington team, TX Lightning you could NOT beat) but then you completely DISMISS the classic league results of Solar Red where everyone here in D1 has handled them fairly easily (10 losses and 2 draws)
They have scored 12 and given up 35
And they are still #3 in Got Soccer
According to your rationale, shouldn't they be in MLS then with that RANKING?

Also, I would say FCD gold, barcelona and Alliance.

We didn't 'duck' PLD either. We played ASC instead...which I believe was a week earlier? TX Lightning we were missing 3 starters...or maybe more than that. Have to check.

CSPAN, if you are going to question, at least try to be serious about it.

OK....that's it, you've gone too far now. FCD Gold?
Why in the hell would you boot us? Because we haven't traveled the East looking for tournaments with high points and weak competition? You guys have faired better than us in a couple of tournaments but we beat ya'll 4 to 1 at the Flamefest in June and in case you've missed it we've been playing the "big boys" every week. (3rd place currently in D1 Classic (just ignore the fact that we are 5 points from 8th place)
I think you should get to play for the spot but to say you should be in over us is LAIM.

Laimport wrote:

Turftoe96 wrote:

Laimport wrote:

mspan02 wrote:I have a question Laim (or is it Lame?) jk
Which of the 16 teams that you believe are in the big boy bracket should be kicked out so you can get in?

D1 - DTR, DTR FTW, Andro Red, FCD Central, FCD Blue, FCD Gold, Rayados, TFC Royal

PA - DT U15, FCD, Solar Chelsea U15

D2 - TFC Blue, Alliance United, Dallas Tigres, DT Red West, Barcelona


Also, why did your team duck Plano Labor Day?

In a previous post I mentioned San Diego for Thanksgiving and you said no way (fair enough) but my point on that one was if not SD then sign up for Bobby Rhine which you apparently still have not done yet.
Why?

And lastly, you beat Solar Red in a tourney (and keep forgetting to say that a Arlington team, TX Lightning you could NOT beat) but then you completely DISMISS the classic league results of Solar Red where everyone here in D1 has handled them fairly easily (10 losses and 2 draws)
They have scored 12 and given up 35
And they are still #3 in Got Soccer
According to your rationale, shouldn't they be in MLS then with that RANKING?

Also, I would say FCD gold, barcelona and Alliance.

We didn't 'duck' PLD either. We played ASC instead...which I believe was a week earlier? TX Lightning we were missing 3 starters...or maybe more than that. Have to check.

CSPAN, if you are going to question, at least try to be serious about it.

OK....that's it, you've gone too far now. FCD Gold?
Why in the hell would you boot us? Because we haven't traveled the East looking for tournaments with high points and weak competition? You guys have faired better than us in a couple of tournaments but we beat ya'll 4 to 1 at the Flamefest in June and in case you've missed it we've been playing the "big boys" every week. (3rd place currently in D1 Classic (just ignore the fact that we are 5 points from 8th place)
I think you should get to play for the spot but to say you should be in over us is LAIM.

You beat us before our new players were on board.

I'd speculate we are better than the vast majority of d2 teams.

Of course, that's all this thread is...speculation. Until we systematically play every team you think is remotely close to our level...then that's all it amounts to.

I mean there are probably quite a few that think some of the out of state teams we have played are no better than APL/PPL teams.

Also, riddle me this, why would an out of state team with no gs history/rankings be playing in the red bracket?

Turftoe96 wrote:

Laimport wrote:

Turftoe96 wrote:

Laimport wrote:

mspan02 wrote:I have a question Laim (or is it Lame?) jk
Which of the 16 teams that you believe are in the big boy bracket should be kicked out so you can get in?

D1 - DTR, DTR FTW, Andro Red, FCD Central, FCD Blue, FCD Gold, Rayados, TFC Royal

PA - DT U15, FCD, Solar Chelsea U15

D2 - TFC Blue, Alliance United, Dallas Tigres, DT Red West, Barcelona


Also, why did your team duck Plano Labor Day?

In a previous post I mentioned San Diego for Thanksgiving and you said no way (fair enough) but my point on that one was if not SD then sign up for Bobby Rhine which you apparently still have not done yet.
Why?

And lastly, you beat Solar Red in a tourney (and keep forgetting to say that a Arlington team, TX Lightning you could NOT beat) but then you completely DISMISS the classic league results of Solar Red where everyone here in D1 has handled them fairly easily (10 losses and 2 draws)
They have scored 12 and given up 35
And they are still #3 in Got Soccer
According to your rationale, shouldn't they be in MLS then with that RANKING?

Also, I would say FCD gold, barcelona and Alliance.

We didn't 'duck' PLD either. We played ASC instead...which I believe was a week earlier? TX Lightning we were missing 3 starters...or maybe more than that. Have to check.

CSPAN, if you are going to question, at least try to be serious about it.

OK....that's it, you've gone too far now. FCD Gold?
Why in the hell would you boot us? Because we haven't traveled the East looking for tournaments with high points and weak competition? You guys have faired better than us in a couple of tournaments but we beat ya'll 4 to 1 at the Flamefest in June and in case you've missed it we've been playing the "big boys" every week. (3rd place currently in D1 Classic (just ignore the fact that we are 5 points from 8th place)
I think you should get to play for the spot but to say you should be in over us is LAIM.

You beat us before our new players were on board.

I'd speculate we are better than the vast majority of d2 teams.

Of course, that's all this thread is...speculation. Until we systematically play every team you think is remotely close to our level...then that's all it amounts to.

I mean there are probably quite a few that think some of the out of state teams we have played are no better than APL/PPL teams.

Also, riddle me this, why would an out of state team with no gs history/rankings be playing in the red bracket?

WOW....Good Luck to ya, I hope you get in.
I didn't realize you had picked up better players now. In light of this new information maybe we should just give you our spot.
The brackets haven't been published and since you guys have picked up these better players maybe the Texans will boot us for you guys. If we get booted to clear room for you guys, I expect and 8 page post crying alligator tears for FCD Gold!

Turftoe96 wrote:

Laimport wrote:

Turftoe96 wrote:

Laimport wrote:

mspan02 wrote:I have a question Laim (or is it Lame?) jk
Which of the 16 teams that you believe are in the big boy bracket should be kicked out so you can get in?

D1 - DTR, DTR FTW, Andro Red, FCD Central, FCD Blue, FCD Gold, Rayados, TFC Royal

PA - DT U15, FCD, Solar Chelsea U15

D2 - TFC Blue, Alliance United, Dallas Tigres, DT Red West, Barcelona


Also, why did your team duck Plano Labor Day?

In a previous post I mentioned San Diego for Thanksgiving and you said no way (fair enough) but my point on that one was if not SD then sign up for Bobby Rhine which you apparently still have not done yet.
Why?

And lastly, you beat Solar Red in a tourney (and keep forgetting to say that a Arlington team, TX Lightning you could NOT beat) but then you completely DISMISS the classic league results of Solar Red where everyone here in D1 has handled them fairly easily (10 losses and 2 draws)
They have scored 12 and given up 35
And they are still #3 in Got Soccer
According to your rationale, shouldn't they be in MLS then with that RANKING?

Also, I would say FCD gold, barcelona and Alliance.

We didn't 'duck' PLD either. We played ASC instead...which I believe was a week earlier? TX Lightning we were missing 3 starters...or maybe more than that. Have to check.

CSPAN, if you are going to question, at least try to be serious about it.

OK....that's it, you've gone too far now. FCD Gold?
Why in the hell would you boot us? Because we haven't traveled the East looking for tournaments with high points and weak competition? You guys have faired better than us in a couple of tournaments but we beat ya'll 4 to 1 at the Flamefest in June and in case you've missed it we've been playing the "big boys" every week. (3rd place currently in D1 Classic (just ignore the fact that we are 5 points from 8th place)
I think you should get to play for the spot but to say you should be in over us is LAIM.

You beat us before our new players were on board.

I'd speculate we are better than the vast majority of d2 teams.

Of course, that's all this thread is...speculation. Until we systematically play every team you think is remotely close to our level...then that's all it amounts to.

I mean there are probably quite a few that think some of the out of state teams we have played are no better than APL/PPL teams.

Also, riddle me this, why would an out of state team with no gs history/rankings be playing in the red bracket?

WOW....Good Luck to ya, I hope you get in.
I didn't realize you had picked up better players now. In light of this new information maybe we should just give you our spot.
The brackets haven't been published and since you guys have picked up these better players maybe the Texans will boot us for you guys. If we get booted to clear room for you guys, I expect and 8 page post crying alligator tears for FCD Gold!

futbolfiend wrote:

Turftoe96 wrote:

Laimport wrote:

Turftoe96 wrote:

Laimport wrote:

mspan02 wrote:I have a question Laim (or is it Lame?) jk
Which of the 16 teams that you believe are in the big boy bracket should be kicked out so you can get in?

D1 - DTR, DTR FTW, Andro Red, FCD Central, FCD Blue, FCD Gold, Rayados, TFC Royal

PA - DT U15, FCD, Solar Chelsea U15

D2 - TFC Blue, Alliance United, Dallas Tigres, DT Red West, Barcelona


Also, why did your team duck Plano Labor Day?

In a previous post I mentioned San Diego for Thanksgiving and you said no way (fair enough) but my point on that one was if not SD then sign up for Bobby Rhine which you apparently still have not done yet.
Why?

And lastly, you beat Solar Red in a tourney (and keep forgetting to say that a Arlington team, TX Lightning you could NOT beat) but then you completely DISMISS the classic league results of Solar Red where everyone here in D1 has handled them fairly easily (10 losses and 2 draws)
They have scored 12 and given up 35
And they are still #3 in Got Soccer
According to your rationale, shouldn't they be in MLS then with that RANKING?

Also, I would say FCD gold, barcelona and Alliance.

We didn't 'duck' PLD either. We played ASC instead...which I believe was a week earlier? TX Lightning we were missing 3 starters...or maybe more than that. Have to check.

CSPAN, if you are going to question, at least try to be serious about it.

OK....that's it, you've gone too far now. FCD Gold?
Why in the hell would you boot us? Because we haven't traveled the East looking for tournaments with high points and weak competition? You guys have faired better than us in a couple of tournaments but we beat ya'll 4 to 1 at the Flamefest in June and in case you've missed it we've been playing the "big boys" every week. (3rd place currently in D1 Classic (just ignore the fact that we are 5 points from 8th place)
I think you should get to play for the spot but to say you should be in over us is LAIM.

You beat us before our new players were on board.

I'd speculate we are better than the vast majority of d2 teams.

Of course, that's all this thread is...speculation. Until we systematically play every team you think is remotely close to our level...then that's all it amounts to.

I mean there are probably quite a few that think some of the out of state teams we have played are no better than APL/PPL teams.

Also, riddle me this, why would an out of state team with no gs history/rankings be playing in the red bracket?

WOW....Good Luck to ya, I hope you get in.
I didn't realize you had picked up better players now. In light of this new information maybe we should just give you our spot.
The brackets haven't been published and since you guys have picked up these better players maybe the Texans will boot us for you guys. If we get booted to clear room for you guys, I expect and 8 page post crying alligator tears for FCD Gold!

1. Love the avatar
2. I leave for the afternoon and the board erupts
3. I don't want anybody to be booted, I only was making a case for ETX

Everyone wants to beat up on solar red for poor CL1 results but in the same breath forget to mention oh yeah they won PLD including a win over FCD BLUE which I guess is the class of D1. We played Solar Red in a very competitive match which we won on an semi forced error on their part, we also hit the post twice. To the poster that mentioned our Non win against Arlington League Ligtning..You do know that tournaments are played in a series of bracket games and it is possible to advance before the third bracket game and maybe thats time to rest your starters..In our case we only had 13 field players for the whole tourney and were missing 2/3 of our new LA guys and our NTX ODP player. still we were through with a draw and played like it going down 0-2 in the first five minutes but rallied and tied easily. We should have had Barcelona in the finals but they slipped up in their third bracket game to Waco. From watching them they are very similar and it would have been a good match.

Now we come back to AYSES Summer Classic

I was thrilled to see us in a bracket with two Texans teams because we could see Fall Festival down the road and hoped our performance against host teams would help our cause. They made us play cross bracket. We played D2 solar Gold and FCD Silver, both struggling in D2 and frankly the games were not competitive. Already assured of advancing we drew with Tyler Shock (who tied all 3 bracket games including both Texans teams) We played #1 D2 TFC BLue in a very competitive semi match and won 1-0. I said it at the time before league play started that they were the class of D2 and would probably advance and I see they are at the top of the table.. good for them good team good club hope they do well in D1 next year (biased ex TFC Dad here)

If you want to hold last years results against us I can't change that yes we lost 4-1 to FCD Gold in a semi with a very thin squad but we also lost 2-0 to Solar Gold same tourney then after new roster new year soundly defeated them

Frankly FCD Gold is probably a step ahead of us. I would like to see you play. I would love for us to play you. Ive maintained from Day 1 that I felt we were lower tier D1 upper tier D2..still stand by it.

I would also like to thank NTX Soccer for allowing us to get our money back..no harm no foul

Best of Luck to everyone. Hopefully we can find a way to get some games in the spring.


(EDIT)

He's right turftoe. My apologies.

OK....that's it, you've gone too far now. FCD Gold?



IN defense of Laimport I think he mistook you for Solar Gold, I don't think he would have suggested #3 in D1 should be anything but a top seed

love_your_refs wrote:Did you guys get your refund?...I see you are no longer on the accepted teams list...They added a good team from Houston.

True10 wrote:IMHO you should have played. I am a fan of the small clubs and independents. Am Light and IE played everyone they could, win lose or draw. They earned not only respect but IE a DC spot. Am Light took their lumps but can play with most anybody.

love_your_refs wrote:

True10 wrote:IMHO you should have played. I am a fan of the small clubs and independents. Am Light and IE played everyone they could, win lose or draw. They earned not only respect but IE a DC spot. Am Light took their lumps but can play with most anybody.

Yeah, I guess Laimpart it is not about development at ETX, is it? It's seems you and your BB's team have succumb to the system you yourself have deemed so flawed. At ETXP it is about ranking and it is about winning, anything else is a waste of time.

TBBD wrote:

love_your_refs wrote:

True10 wrote:IMHO you should have played. I am a fan of the small clubs and independents. Am Light and IE played everyone they could, win lose or draw. They earned not only respect but IE a DC spot. Am Light took their lumps but can play with most anybody.

Yeah, I guess Laimpart it is not about development at ETX, is it? It's seems you and your BB's team have succumb to the system you yourself have deemed so flawed. At ETXP it is about ranking and it is about winning, anything else is a waste of time.

Nothing but crying from ETX, in fact 8 pages worth in the end,take my ball and go home because I did not get my way.Now go take down some of those powerhouse teams in LA and MS.

TBBD wrote:

love_your_refs wrote:

True10 wrote:IMHO you should have played. I am a fan of the small clubs and independents. Am Light and IE played everyone they could, win lose or draw. They earned not only respect but IE a DC spot. Am Light took their lumps but can play with most anybody.

Yeah, I guess Laimpart it is not about development at ETX, is it? It's seems you and your BB's team have succumb to the system you yourself have deemed so flawed. At ETXP it is about ranking and it is about winning, anything else is a waste of time.

Nothing but crying from ETX, in fact 8 pages worth in the end,take my ball and go home because I did not get my way.Now go take down some of those powerhouse teams in LA and MS.

crazyET wrote: