QT Round 2 Discussion...

cts wrote:Brackets and schedule is up: http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=19827&Sex=Boys&Age=11

jack0fspeed wrote:

cts wrote:Brackets and schedule is up: http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=19827&Sex=Boys&Age=11

Unreal.

Olympians start as a 27 seed. Lose to the #1 seed in the QT. Then win vs the 26 seed. And we get a #4 seed in round 2?

That's not right.

jack0fspeed wrote:

cts wrote:Brackets and schedule is up: http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=19827&Sex=Boys&Age=11

Unreal.

Olympians start as a 27 seed. Lose to the #1 seed in the QT. Then win vs the 26 seed. And we get a #4 seed in round 2?

That's not right.

Ochocinco wrote:

jack0fspeed wrote:

cts wrote:Brackets and schedule is up: http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=19827&Sex=Boys&Age=11

Unreal.

Olympians start as a 27 seed. Lose to the #1 seed in the QT. Then win vs the 26 seed. And we get a #4 seed in round 2?

That's not right.

Good luck in that bracket. Expect to see lots of slide tackles in your game vs Wizards.

jkspinks wrote:FCD Gomez - 5 pts
DT Red South - 5 pts
Boca Jr's Gold - 4 pts

How does Boca get in and the other two don't?

jack0fspeed wrote:It looks like the seeding was done purely on points with slight adjustments.

One problem with that though ... we played one less game than anyone else. Furthermore, everyone else had a bottom 10 team in their bracket.

Give us one more game against a bottom 10 team and we're scoring another 10 points. TFC Pelaez and International FC would have as well.

I can't believe what a screw job this is for teams in the 3 team brackets.

slampg wrote:

jack0fspeed wrote:It looks like the seeding was done purely on points with slight adjustments.

One problem with that though ... we played one less game than anyone else. Furthermore, everyone else had a bottom 10 team in their bracket.

Give us one more game against a bottom 10 team and we're scoring another 10 points. TFC Pelaez and International FC would have as well.

I can't believe what a screw job this is for teams in the 3 team brackets.

Why are you whining Jack? Your bracket is fairly well balanced. Just be thankful you're not in the bracket of death (B).

slampg wrote:Why are you whining Jack? Your bracket is fairly well balanced. Just be thankful you're not in the bracket of death (B).

Rocketeer wrote:

indyfc wrote:

BTMason wrote:

cts wrote:When do the schedules come out?

Here is my take on who should be the #1 seeds in order for next weekend:
1. FORT WORTH FC 01B WHITE (GUENDOUZI) – played well, should be overall #1 for round 2
2. FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B CENTRAL (WATERS) – quiet weekend, but still probably solid pick for D1.
3. NTX STRIKERS BLUE 01B (CONTRERAS) – strong independent team. Had solid round 1 with tie against FCD Premier and 7-2, 3-0 victories justifies an upgrade for 2nd round
4. TFC 01B (ANGELL) – was probably overseeded by 4-5 spots for round 1 and may drop a few spots as a result of the round 1 performance
5. FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B BLUE (CHE) – good team that performed well in round 1 probably moves up a few spots for round 2 seeding
6. WIZARDS FC 01B (GONZALEZ) - went scoreless in 2 games, but played Man U close.
7. DALLAS TEXANS SC 01B RED DALLAS (CRAFT) - solid Texans team that deserves a 1 seed in round 2.

Based off perfomance in this weekends tournament/points I see the seeding as follows:

1. FORT WORTH FC 01B WHITE (GUENDOUZI) (TXN)
2. NTX STRIKERS BLUE 01B (CONTRERAS) (TXN)
3. LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 01B CHAMBERS (PEDROSO) (TXN)
4. ANORANZAS FC 01B (MARTINEZ) (TXN)
5. DALLAS TEXANS SC 01B RED DALLAS (CRAFT) (TXN)
6. FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B BLUE (CHE) (TXN)
7. DALLAS TEXANS SC 01B NORTH (WOLF) (TXN)

I just dont see TFC Angell deserving anything in even the top 14 after this weekend. Finishing with 9 points in a group many predicted them to win, or easily take seconnd, is just not strong enough to rank anything that high in my opinion. The same is true for the Wizards. Teams have come and played and should be seeded accordingly. So, good luck to all who played... Compassion to all who are done so soon, and Huge Congrats to those who are in D1 already. Everyone else... well... thats why they play the games. Good luck next weekend to everyone playing.

I have to also question what you're basing your opinion of these teams on. Did you simply look at the scores and decide that they weren't deserving or not strong enough to be seeded any higher? Did you watch any of their games? If so, what did you see wrong with the teams? I am not saying you are wrong, but please enlighten us as to what you saw from these two teams that helped you form your opinion.

BTW, while you're at it, why don't you also tell us where you think your team desrves to be seeded and how strong they are in comparison to teams you referrenced above?

Just took a look at the results from Round 1, and if CL does the seeding based on the original seeds in Round 1, the overall seeds should look something like this:

1) FORT WORTH FC 01B WHITE (GUENDOUZI)
2) TFC 01B (ANGELL)
3) FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B CENTRAL (WATERS)
4) WIZARDS FC 01B (GONZALEZ)
5) DALLAS TEXANS SC 01B RED DALLAS (CRAFT)
6) NTX STRIKERS BLUE 01B (CONTRERAS)
7) FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B BLUE (CHE)
8.) ANORANZAS FC 01B (MARTINEZ)
9) BARCELONA SC 01B (QUINTANA)
10) AMERICAN EAGLES 01B WHITE (MEDINA)
11) INTERNATIONAL FC ROYAL 01B (BERTELSEN)
12) TFC 01B BLUE PELAEZ)
13) OLYMPIANS 01B (DASILVA)
14) AYSES 01B GOLD (THOMAS)
15) LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 01B CHAMBERS (PEDROSO)
16) FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B GOLD (FIGUEROA)
17) BOCA JUNIORS F.C. 01B GOLD (MARTINEZ)
18) FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B SOUTH RED (VEDRAL)
19) DALLAS TEXANS SC 01B NORTH (WOLF)
20) FORT WORTH FC 01B RED (WILLIAMS)
21) DALLAS TEXANS SC 01B WHITE (SADJADY)
22) FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B WEST (KANG)
23) AC LONGVIEW 01B (HASKINS)
24) CHIVAS USA 01B (MANCILLA)
25) DALLAS COSMOS 01B BLACK
26) AYSES 01B BLACK (MEDINA)
27) MANSFIELD SAMBA FUTBOL 01B GOLD (MASON)
28) TEXAS PREMIER FUTBOL NAPOLI 01B (ALEJANDRO)


Brackets should look something like this:

A)
1) FORT WORTH FC 01B WHITE (GUENDOUZI)
2) AYSES 01B GOLD (THOMAS)
3) LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 01B CHAMBERS (PEDROSO)
4) TEXAS PREMIER FUTBOL NAPOLI 01B (ALEJANDRO)



B)
1) TFC 01B (ANGELL)
2) OLYMPIANS 01B (DASILVA)
3) FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B GOLD (FIGUEROA)
4) MANSFIELD SAMBA FUTBOL 01B GOLD (MASON)



C)
1) FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B CENTRAL (WATERS)
2) TFC 01B BLUE PELAEZ)
3) BOCA JUNIORS F.C. 01B GOLD (MARTINEZ)
4) AYSES 01B BLACK (MEDINA)



D)
1) WIZARDS FC 01B (GONZALEZ)
2) INTERNATIONAL FC ROYAL 01B (BERTELSEN)
3) FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B SOUTH RED (VEDRAL)
4) DALLAS COSMOS 01B BLACK



E)
1) DALLAS TEXANS SC 01B RED DALLAS (CRAFT)
2) AMERICAN EAGLES 01B WHITE (MEDINA)
3) DALLAS TEXANS SC 01B NORTH (WOLF)
4) CHIVAS USA 01B (MANCILLA)



F)
1) NTX STRIKERS BLUE 01B (CONTRERAS)
2) BARCELONA SC 01B (QUINTANA)
3) FORT WORTH FC 01B RED (WILLIAMS)
4) AC LONGVIEW 01B (HASKINS)



G)
1) FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B BLUE (CHE)
2) ANORANZAS FC 01B (MARTINEZ)
3) DALLAS TEXANS SC 01B WHITE (SADJADY)
4) FC DALLAS YOUTH 01B WEST (KANG)


Looks like coach BTMason will have a chance to show everyone that TFC Angell is not "deserving".

Man I hope it turns out this way!

We will find out, FYI, Samba is a good team, with really good soccer players. This is truly where the 10 yr old's are good, technically skilled but the COACH HAS NOT INJECTED CONFIDENCE TO HIS PLAYERS.

I hope Mr Mason reads this, and does his kid's right. Wonderful team with wonderful parents, so Coach, can you coach and make everyone proud. Please.

That team will probably win Arlington Premier League and all the accolades that goes with that..

Arlington/Burleson/Mansfield are truly a hot bed for soccer players.

jack0fspeed wrote:

slampg wrote:Why are you whining Jack? Your bracket is fairly well balanced. Just be thankful you're not in the bracket of death (B).

Easy for you to say. Your team is already in.

To rate teams entirely on points is unfair to us. We didn't play the same number of games as teams in 4 team brackets. If we had been in a 4 team bracket we'd be a 2 seed.

BTMason wrote:Where are my accusers now??? Ibra, Indyfc, nothing??

Again, I stated an opinion and it happened to be much closer to correct than either of you expected.

Now that all the suspense is over, good luck to all the teams.

Back to training my kids. Tough weekend ahead.

slampg wrote:Jack - I'll be sweating in the Texas heat right next to you this coming weekend (wish we had made it round one).

As far as your "fair" comment goes, you also were guarantied to be in the second week no matter how you did. Do you really want it both ways?

jack0fspeed wrote:

slampg wrote:Jack - I'll be sweating in the Texas heat right next to you this coming weekend (wish we had made it round one).

As far as your "fair" comment goes, you also were guarantied to be in the second week no matter how you did. Do you really want it both ways?

I thought you were FCD Waters?!?

And yes, I would have rather been in a 4 team bracket if I knew that the best I could possibly do was a #3 seed in round 2.

jack0fspeed wrote:

slampg wrote:Jack - I'll be sweating in the Texas heat right next to you this coming weekend (wish we had made it round one).

As far as your "fair" comment goes, you also were guarantied to be in the second week no matter how you did. Do you really want it both ways?

I thought you were FCD Waters?!?

And yes, I would have rather been in a 4 team bracket if I knew that the best I could possibly do was a #3 seed in round 2.[/quote

Think of it this way ...

We came in as a #27 seed. We lost to a #1 seed ... that's what's supposed to happen. We WON our game vs the #26 seed.

And we get dropped to a 34 seed?

Does that make any sense?

slampg wrote:Bottom line is your bracket is a decent representation of the remaining teams. Take care of business and you're in. And FCD Central (Waters) is the 2 seed in bracket G... another well balanced bracket.

newparent wrote:

slampg wrote:

jack0fspeed wrote:It looks like the seeding was done purely on points with slight adjustments.

One problem with that though ... we played one less game than anyone else. Furthermore, everyone else had a bottom 10 team in their bracket.

Give us one more game against a bottom 10 team and we're scoring another 10 points. TFC Pelaez and International FC would have as well.

I can't believe what a screw job this is for teams in the 3 team brackets.

Why are you whining Jack? Your bracket is fairly well balanced. Just be thankful you're not in the bracket of death (B).

The only issue is that bracket B has 3 teams that should be in Classic, but only 2 will go.

I do think TFC comes back and makes it in this time. Who knows, maybe they'll even win the bracket but I don't think so.

caltex1974 wrote:Enough. I have to speak up. I can't stand to read another whiny and innacurate rant of yours. Did you or your manager attend the manager's meeting? If so then you would know that: 1) your points were averaged against the maximum available just as everyone else's were, meaning that you had a max of 20 available as opposed to the max of 30 available for other brackets. 2) you were guaranteed a return the second weekend.

Stop whining and go prepare your boys for round 2.

jack0fspeed wrote:

caltex1974 wrote:Enough. I have to speak up. I can't stand to read another whiny and innacurate rant of yours. Did you or your manager attend the manager's meeting? If so then you would know that: 1) your points were averaged against the maximum available just as everyone else's were, meaning that you had a max of 20 available as opposed to the max of 30 available for other brackets. 2) you were guaranteed a return the second weekend.

Stop whining and go prepare your boys for round 2.

Right, I should have read the meeting minutes. Yes I'm being sarcastic.

Look ... it just isn't fair us. When we paid our $650 no one told us ... by the way, you might be playing with a different set of rules than 40 of the other teams.

jack0fspeed wrote:

caltex1974 wrote:Enough. I have to speak up. I can't stand to read another whiny and innacurate rant of yours. Did you or your manager attend the manager's meeting? If so then you would know that: 1) your points were averaged against the maximum available just as everyone else's were, meaning that you had a max of 20 available as opposed to the max of 30 available for other brackets. 2) you were guaranteed a return the second weekend.

Stop whining and go prepare your boys for round 2.

Right, I should have read the meeting minutes. Yes I'm being sarcastic.

Look ... it just isn't fair us. When we paid our $650 no one told us ... by the way, you might be playing with a different set of rules than 40 of the other teams.

jack0fspeed wrote:It looks like the seeding was done purely on points with slight adjustments.

One problem with that though ... we played one less game than anyone else. Furthermore, everyone else had a bottom 10 team in their bracket.

Give us one more game against a bottom 10 team and we're scoring another 10 points. TFC Pelaez and International FC would have as well.

I can't believe what a screw job this is for teams in the 3 team brackets.