QT Round 2 Discussion...

Ochocinco wrote:

jstply wrote:

t5house wrote:Listen we can gripe and complain everytime we dont get things our way. If your team ends up in D2 then fantastic. If your team ends up in Arlington/Plano then fantastic. Accept it and get over it quickly. My bb team is in the deadly B bracket, you want to switch? The boys have to play regardless where they are seeded. Unfair to some, sure. Easier ride for others, you bet. Does it matter at this age, not really. Look further into the future! The majority of the round 2 teams are fairly close as far as competition goes so some teams will/are getting screwed but others are taking a sigh of relief.

Good Luck to everyone this weekend. You have a year regardless what league you end up with. Help your child improve, dont sit back and wait.

Bracket B is a tough bracket, but may not be the worst bracket to be in.
NTX strikers has a kid on mid-field that can boot the ball 50 yards ar so. Be prepared to do some serious ball chasing. Expect lots of slide tackles...
FCFW Red-this is a good defensive team. Their defenders are really good at clearing the ball. Couple of fast wingers.
TFC Angell - hopefully, they can rebound.


Bracket E is another tough bracket with DT Craft and Liverpool Chambers.
DT Craft should win the bracket.
Pedroso's team does have athletes. DT Craft will have a hard time against Pedroso's team.
Dallas Cosmos Black - don't discount this team. They are better than what their record shows. Their 5-1 loss was against Coppell FC that has additions from Solar Partain and Solar Red.

Coppell FC was very under ranked. For those that has already qualified for D1, be warned, Coppell FC is a very fast and atheletic D1 team. Not sure if they can beat Solar Red, DT Gall, or FCD-Bazan, but I think they can potentially beat any other D1s. No my bb does not play for them.

Bracket F -Jackospeed's bracket
I do feel sorry for your team. This ain't no easy bracket.
DT Wolf is an atheletic team. They may have lost most of their original players, but they prove that they are still pretty dangerous.
OC Wizards - tough direct play team with lots of slide tackling. They gave FCD Premier lots of trouble in the more recent tournaments.
Best of luck to your son's team Jack. I don't agree with some of the seedings either. Complaining on this forum is not garnering any supporters. Get your kid ready. It's going to be hot as hell again.

...and after all the posts involving TFC and Liverpool, wouldn't it be ironic to see Liverpool in D1 and TFC in D2?

Ochocinco wrote:
...and after all the posts involving TFC and Liverpool, wouldn't it be ironic to see Liverpool in D1 and TFC in D2?

cts wrote:
All the post about this went a little overboard to begin with. They originated as a result of a game played in the King Tut tournament, between these two winless teams, that only served to determine which team would finish in last place in their bracket. It has been discussed for weeks as if a major tournament championship was at stake. This entire topic is way beyond past the "time to move on" category.

jstply wrote:There were a few surprises in round 1. There will probably be more surprises in round 2. I see quite a few teams that are capable of beating each other on any given day. These are 10 year olds. They are going to have bad days. There will be some very good teams that will end up in D2, or worse yet, not qualifing due to bad luck. I'm going to cross my fingers and hope for the best for my bb's team.

On a darker note, I saw a really pathetic scene last week. Some guy was drilling his kid for underperforming on the field after a game in the parking lot. What an idiot! That was just crazy. Let's not make this more stressful for our kids then it already is. For God sake, they are running around in 108 degree weather. I, for one, will accept the end result and focus on my son having a fun season, whatever division or league that his team may end up. It is great to win, but IMO, I would rather that my son develop into a skilled football player and a good person. Isn't that what we should be concentrating on at this point in time?

As for TFC Angell, hopefully, they will get a chance to face Liverpool again in the regular season. Not sure what happened to TFC last weekend...I hope the best for them this week!

wolverine wrote:

cts wrote:
All the post about this went a little overboard to begin with. They originated as a result of a game played in the King Tut tournament, between these two winless teams, that only served to determine which team would finish in last place in their bracket. It has been discussed for weeks as if a major tournament championship was at stake. This entire topic is way beyond past the "time to move on" category.

Totally agree that we had a little too much fun with the King Tut game but that's what forums are for . . . to generate discussion, right?

CTS, do you have a fact checker on your computer? You massacred the facts about each teams' performance in King Tut and what the discussion on the forum was REALLY about.

Go back, study King Tut scores/results, re-read ALL the posts regarding these teams after King Tut, and study really hard b/c The Wolf is giving a surprise test tomorrow when you log back on!

Seriously though, I get your point regardless of the inaccuracies in your post.

soccerisgood123 wrote:no other predictors out there? come on in the water's fine........

soccerisgood123 wrote:no other predictors out there? come on in the water's fine........

newparent wrote:

soccerisgood123 wrote:no other predictors out there? come on in the water's fine........

Is there a line in Vegas? If so, here are my picks:
A - ANORANZAS
B - TFC, I know but I have a hard time believing it was all a lie
C - FWFC
D - FCD Blue - Che
E - DTX Craft, although Liverpool has a chance
F - DTX Wolf, I want to pick the WIZARDS but I don't see them scoring against DTX Wolf
G - FCD Waters, the easiest pick on the board

B - FCD South, headed to Arlington
D - AC Longview headed to D3

jstply wrote:There were a few surprises in round 1. There will probably be more surprises in round 2. I see quite a few teams that are capable of beating each other on any given day. These are 10 year olds. They are going to have bad days. There will be some very good teams that will end up in D2, or worse yet, not qualifing due to bad luck. I'm going to cross my fingers and hope for the best for my bb's team.

On a darker note, I saw a really pathetic scene last week. Some guy was drilling his kid for underperforming on the field after a game in the parking lot. What an idiot! That was just crazy. Let's not make this more stressful for our kids then it already is. For God sake, they are running around in 108 degree weather. I, for one, will accept the end result and focus on my son having a fun season, whatever division or league that his team may end up. It is great to win, but IMO, I would rather that my son develop into a skilled football player and a good person. Isn't that what we should be concentrating on at this point in time?

As for TFC Angell, hopefully, they will get a chance to face Liverpool again in the regular season. Not sure what happened to TFC last weekend...I hope the best for them this week!

jstply wrote:

newparent wrote:

soccerisgood123 wrote:no other predictors out there? come on in the water's fine........

Is there a line in Vegas? If so, here are my picks:
A - ANORANZAS
B - TFC, I know but I have a hard time believing it was all a lie
C - FWFC
D - FCD Blue - Che
E - DTX Craft, although Liverpool has a chance
F - DTX Wolf, I want to pick the WIZARDS but I don't see them scoring against DTX Wolf
G - FCD Waters, the easiest pick on the board

B - FCD South, headed to Arlington
D - AC Longview headed to D3

I like your picks! AC longview to D3? You mean D2...No D3 this year.

Rocketeer wrote:

jstply wrote:There were a few surprises in round 1. There will probably be more surprises in round 2. I see quite a few teams that are capable of beating each other on any given day. These are 10 year olds. They are going to have bad days. There will be some very good teams that will end up in D2, or worse yet, not qualifing due to bad luck. I'm going to cross my fingers and hope for the best for my bb's team.

On a darker note, I saw a really pathetic scene last week. Some guy was drilling his kid for underperforming on the field after a game in the parking lot. What an idiot! That was just crazy. Let's not make this more stressful for our kids then it already is. For God sake, they are running around in 108 degree weather. I, for one, will accept the end result and focus on my son having a fun season, whatever division or league that his team may end up. It is great to win, but IMO, I would rather that my son develop into a skilled football player and a good person. Isn't that what we should be concentrating on at this point in time?

As for TFC Angell, hopefully, they will get a chance to face Liverpool again in the regular season. Not sure what happened to TFC last weekend...I hope the best for them this week!

I disagree with you, let me assume that the dad is paying $2000 - $3000 for Select Soccer and his son laid an egg in the game because of whatever reason (heat, just a bad day).
The dad as a parent has a right to emphasis to his kid that he needs to play to his potential, Classic League is what we were working towards as a goal and these opportunities only come around once in 10 yr old kids life because then he is 11 and then 12 and on.....

Let us assume the kid then played to his potential and the team is now in Classic Div 1. I would say that is a job well done.

Rather than going, Great Job Moses, awesome job Moses, way to open that bottle of water Moses....you played great in the heat Moses, oh we are now eliminated Moses, we had fun did we not son.

I am not big on soccer, but these are also life lessons that a parent needs to impart to his children.

Ripping into a child done constructively is not dark.

Who are we to judge what positive impact the parent had on his kid, when dad for the sake of argument had a "come to Jesus moment with his son". This is not an ordinary tournament, this is getting into Classic Div 1.

I for one think its justified as long as the dad keeps it in soccer context, and they the son and dad have a good relationship. As far as what the public thinks, who gives a S**T.

soccerisgood123 wrote:no other predictors out there? come on in the water's fine........

afrankw wrote:

soccerisgood123 wrote:no other predictors out there? come on in the water's fine........

DI
ANORANZAS FC
NTX STRIKERS BLUE
FORT WORTH FC '01 BOYS WHITE
FC DALLAS 01 BLUE
DALLAS TEXANS 01 BOYS RED DALLAS
WIZARDS FC WIZARDS 01 BOYS
FC DALLAS 01B CENTRAL

DII
MANSFIELD SAMBA FC 2001 BOYS GOLD
TFC 01B
FC DALLAS 01B WEST
CHIVAS USA 01
LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA '01 CHAMBERS
DALLAS TEXANS 01B NORTH
BARCELONA SC
FC DALLAS 01B SOUTH RED
INTERNATIONAL FC 01B
AC LONGVIEW 01 BOYS

jstply wrote:

Rocketeer wrote:

jstply wrote:There were a few surprises in round 1. There will probably be more surprises in round 2. I see quite a few teams that are capable of beating each other on any given day. These are 10 year olds. They are going to have bad days. There will be some very good teams that will end up in D2, or worse yet, not qualifing due to bad luck. I'm going to cross my fingers and hope for the best for my bb's team.

On a darker note, I saw a really pathetic scene last week. Some guy was drilling his kid for underperforming on the field after a game in the parking lot. What an idiot! That was just crazy. Let's not make this more stressful for our kids then it already is. For God sake, they are running around in 108 degree weather. I, for one, will accept the end result and focus on my son having a fun season, whatever division or league that his team may end up. It is great to win, but IMO, I would rather that my son develop into a skilled football player and a good person. Isn't that what we should be concentrating on at this point in time?

As for TFC Angell, hopefully, they will get a chance to face Liverpool again in the regular season. Not sure what happened to TFC last weekend...I hope the best for them this week!

I disagree with you, let me assume that the dad is paying $2000 - $3000 for Select Soccer and his son laid an egg in the game because of whatever reason (heat, just a bad day).
The dad as a parent has a right to emphasis to his kid that he needs to play to his potential, Classic League is what we were working towards as a goal and these opportunities only come around once in 10 yr old kids life because then he is 11 and then 12 and on.....

Let us assume the kid then played to his potential and the team is now in Classic Div 1. I would say that is a job well done.

Rather than going, Great Job Moses, awesome job Moses, way to open that bottle of water Moses....you played great in the heat Moses, oh we are now eliminated Moses, we had fun did we not son.

I am not big on soccer, but these are also life lessons that a parent needs to impart to his children.

Ripping into a child done constructively is not dark.

Who are we to judge what positive impact the parent had on his kid, when dad for the sake of argument had a "come to Jesus moment with his son". This is not an ordinary tournament, this is getting into Classic Div 1.

I for one think its justified as long as the dad keeps it in soccer context, and they the son and dad have a good relationship. As far as what the public thinks, who gives a S**T.

This was not constructive critism...This A-hole was telling his son that he did a s**tty job out there and he was the reason why the team lost the game and has to play round 2. I have no problems with constructive critism...Hopefully, this is not the kind of conversation you have with your son after a bad game.

Rocketeer wrote:

jstply wrote:

Rocketeer wrote:

jstply wrote:There were a few surprises in round 1. There will probably be more surprises in round 2. I see quite a few teams that are capable of beating each other on any given day. These are 10 year olds. They are going to have bad days. There will be some very good teams that will end up in D2, or worse yet, not qualifing due to bad luck. I'm going to cross my fingers and hope for the best for my bb's team.

On a darker note, I saw a really pathetic scene last week. Some guy was drilling his kid for underperforming on the field after a game in the parking lot. What an idiot! That was just crazy. Let's not make this more stressful for our kids then it already is. For God sake, they are running around in 108 degree weather. I, for one, will accept the end result and focus on my son having a fun season, whatever division or league that his team may end up. It is great to win, but IMO, I would rather that my son develop into a skilled football player and a good person. Isn't that what we should be concentrating on at this point in time?

As for TFC Angell, hopefully, they will get a chance to face Liverpool again in the regular season. Not sure what happened to TFC last weekend...I hope the best for them this week!

I disagree with you, let me assume that the dad is paying $2000 - $3000 for Select Soccer and his son laid an egg in the game because of whatever reason (heat, just a bad day).
The dad as a parent has a right to emphasis to his kid that he needs to play to his potential, Classic League is what we were working towards as a goal and these opportunities only come around once in 10 yr old kids life because then he is 11 and then 12 and on.....

Let us assume the kid then played to his potential and the team is now in Classic Div 1. I would say that is a job well done.

Rather than going, Great Job Moses, awesome job Moses, way to open that bottle of water Moses....you played great in the heat Moses, oh we are now eliminated Moses, we had fun did we not son.

I am not big on soccer, but these are also life lessons that a parent needs to impart to his children.

Ripping into a child done constructively is not dark.

Who are we to judge what positive impact the parent had on his kid, when dad for the sake of argument had a "come to Jesus moment with his son". This is not an ordinary tournament, this is getting into Classic Div 1.

I for one think its justified as long as the dad keeps it in soccer context, and they the son and dad have a good relationship. As far as what the public thinks, who gives a S**T.

This was not constructive critism...This A-hole was telling his son that he did a s**tty job out there and he was the reason why the team lost the game and has to play round 2. I have no problems with constructive critism...Hopefully, this is not the kind of conversation you have with your son after a bad game.

I am not sure, I was not there to observe the conversation, so I cannot answer the question of "do I have that kind of conversation with my son". Also my team made it to Classic Div 1. However I did have a talk with my son on how important giving it all he had for this tournament, and he is bouncing off the walls at home, saying "We are in Classic Div I" "We are in Classic Div I". Never seen the boy so happy and excited.

Did the scene you wrote about take place on Saturday or Sunday, just curious.I do not know, I am still not willing to call a parent who pay's for select and invest time on his kid an A%%%le because he was angry (strong word) at his son. There are far worse deadbeat dads out there.

soccerisgood123 wrote:On the flip side, which team do you all think has the easiest path to D1 this weekend?


ANORANZAS FC

soccerisgood123 wrote:On the flip side, which team do you all think has the easiest path to D1 this weekend?


ANORANZAS FC

DadofDefense wrote:

soccerisgood123 wrote:On the flip side, which team do you all think has the easiest path to D1 this weekend?


ANORANZAS FC

FW White

Ochocinco wrote:

Rocketeer wrote:

jstply wrote:

Rocketeer wrote:

jstply wrote:There were a few surprises in round 1. There will probably be more surprises in round 2. I see quite a few teams that are capable of beating each other on any given day. These are 10 year olds. They are going to have bad days. There will be some very good teams that will end up in D2, or worse yet, not qualifing due to bad luck. I'm going to cross my fingers and hope for the best for my bb's team.

On a darker note, I saw a really pathetic scene last week. Some guy was drilling his kid for underperforming on the field after a game in the parking lot. What an idiot! That was just crazy. Let's not make this more stressful for our kids then it already is. For God sake, they are running around in 108 degree weather. I, for one, will accept the end result and focus on my son having a fun season, whatever division or league that his team may end up. It is great to win, but IMO, I would rather that my son develop into a skilled football player and a good person. Isn't that what we should be concentrating on at this point in time?

As for TFC Angell, hopefully, they will get a chance to face Liverpool again in the regular season. Not sure what happened to TFC last weekend...I hope the best for them this week!

I disagree with you, let me assume that the dad is paying $2000 - $3000 for Select Soccer and his son laid an egg in the game because of whatever reason (heat, just a bad day).
The dad as a parent has a right to emphasis to his kid that he needs to play to his potential, Classic League is what we were working towards as a goal and these opportunities only come around once in 10 yr old kids life because then he is 11 and then 12 and on.....

Let us assume the kid then played to his potential and the team is now in Classic Div 1. I would say that is a job well done.

Rather than going, Great Job Moses, awesome job Moses, way to open that bottle of water Moses....you played great in the heat Moses, oh we are now eliminated Moses, we had fun did we not son.

I am not big on soccer, but these are also life lessons that a parent needs to impart to his children.

Ripping into a child done constructively is not dark.

Who are we to judge what positive impact the parent had on his kid, when dad for the sake of argument had a "come to Jesus moment with his son". This is not an ordinary tournament, this is getting into Classic Div 1.

I for one think its justified as long as the dad keeps it in soccer context, and they the son and dad have a good relationship. As far as what the public thinks, who gives a S**T.

This was not constructive critism...This A-hole was telling his son that he did a s**tty job out there and he was the reason why the team lost the game and has to play round 2. I have no problems with constructive critism...Hopefully, this is not the kind of conversation you have with your son after a bad game.

I am not sure, I was not there to observe the conversation, so I cannot answer the question of "do I have that kind of conversation with my son". Also my team made it to Classic Div 1. However I did have a talk with my son on how important giving it all he had for this tournament, and he is bouncing off the walls at home, saying "We are in Classic Div I" "We are in Classic Div I". Never seen the boy so happy and excited.

Did the scene you wrote about take place on Saturday or Sunday, just curious.I do not know, I am still not willing to call a parent who pay's for select and invest time on his kid an A%%%le because he was angry (strong word) at his son. There are far worse deadbeat dads out there.

...not sure if the same but saw something similar around 12 on Sat. as father and son were heading to the parking lot....without mentioning the team name, player was wearing an all white uniform. If that helps anybody.